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    #11
    Actually its probably a secret message from Quebec that they don't see themselves as part of Canada in the long term so they don't want any dependent links to the ROC. They are happy to take equalization for a few decades to improve their financial position, pay off debt and then they are probably gone.

    Any politician with any sense should see that game plan and needs to stop it now.

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      #12
      Originally posted by jazz View Post
      Actually its probably a secret message from Quebec that they don't see themselves as part of Canada in the long term so they don't want any dependent links to the ROC. They are happy to take equalization for a few decades to improve their financial position, pay off debt and then they are probably gone.

      Any politician with any sense should see that game plan and needs to stop it now.
      That’s exactly what’s in play . The Block leader said it quite frankly, they want a separate Nation of Quebec , but not yet. They will suck as much money as possible from everyone else ..... the socialist way , then be gone.
      It would be best if they were booted now , with their debt . They are going to bankrupt the majority of Canada if they are allowed to follow out their plan , and Trudeau will help them in spades to do it .
      It would be far better just to have them separate now and save our future generations the debt load to carry this “distinct society” into their nation of Quebec.
      It would create a much more balanced country politically, and give the rest of Canada a chance to revamp equal representation and not be held hostage to Quebec’s demands .

      Trudeau has divided this country far more than any PM other than his step dad , Pierre.

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        #13
        Well canada wont survive either if Quebec goes and thats good. Ab Sk maybe BC will be on their own and wont take a chance again with centralized control. Toronto could have 10m people by that time.

        But we should take politicians at their word. Both skippy and the bloc are on record with their thoughts about Canada and their actions back it up. Why are we waiting around to study it some more. Like some faint hope the CPC could pull off a fluke win in a couple yrs, then back to the same after that.

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          #14
          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          Do you know anything about the oil business. Enbridge line 9 goes right into Quebec. It actually carries Sask crude. It used to be reversed to bring in Saudi crude further inland. It can be shut off without a bit of disruption to AB customers in the US. The blocheads would have to bring in double the tankers or get it from the US at a higher price. Now whether sask can find another destination could be a question.

          Did you read the article I put up. Heavy sources are dwindling and they are very much in demand. Ab is the only source standing.
          Why isn't it refined right here in Alberta and then sold as higher value product? Create jobs and higher revenue would it not?

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            #15
            30 years ago I read in the western producer that BC was charging one million dollars a year taxes on one railway bridge. Perhaps the prairie provinces should use taxation to broker a better deal.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Ooofty View Post
              Why isn't it refined right here in Alberta and then sold as higher value product? Create jobs and higher revenue would it not?
              Two reasons, the risks on refining are 10 times what they are on extraction and shipping. Remote refineries don't have access to various feedstocks like they do in the central US. A refinery could be a 50B dollar expenditure or more.

              Second, there are already refineries in the US who want it and are taking it. They can handle the risk cause they are so much bigger.

              And lastly, the foreign customers like china want to refine it themselves and create jobs over there.

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                #17
                Originally posted by 6V53 View Post
                30 years ago I read in the western producer that BC was charging one million dollars a year taxes on one railway bridge. Perhaps the prairie provinces should use taxation to broker a better deal.
                They have people that have brains we don’t we just cry how smart everyone has played us.
                Kenney and Harper had the power to change the equalization they were a pair of weiners couldn’t figure out how to make it work so they sat there collecting their pay boasting how they represented us now they want to separate. Because they don’t have the brain power to our smart Quebec and that’s what it all boils down to

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                  #18
                  A gravity tax would be a good start. Goods heading east from the continental divide get taxed and goods (grain,oil and potash) heading West get a subsidy.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
                    They have people that have brains we don’t we just cry how smart everyone has played us.
                    Kenney and Harper had the power to change the equalization they were a pair of weiners couldn’t figure out how to make it work so they sat there collecting their pay boasting how they represented us now they want to separate. Because they don’t have the brain power to our smart Quebec and that’s what it all boils down to
                    The current equalization formulae was their design. Moe and Kenney didn’t press Scheer into talking about changing the equalization program in the campaign. They waited till after so they could use it for political reasons. If Scheer was prime minister there would have been little attention paid to equalization.

                    Pallister is on the receiving end. Moe grew up in a province that benefitted from equalization. If it wasn’t for the resource sectors and high incomes Alberta and Saskatchewan would likely be receiving benefits again. It sucks to be a have province!

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      The current equalization formulae was their design. Moe and Kenney didn’t press Scheer into talking about changing the equalization program in the campaign. They waited till after so they could use it for political reasons. If Scheer was prime minister there would have been little attention paid to equalization.

                      Pallister is on the receiving end. Moe grew up in a province that benefitted from equalization. If it wasn’t for the resource sectors and high incomes Alberta and Saskatchewan would likely be receiving benefits again. It sucks to be a have province!
                      Why not scrap equalization altogether? Let the population move around the country to where they are needed.

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