Hemispherical Snowline Extent

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Have fun defending your childrens author take on climate science!

I didn't defend him. I didn't even read it, I try to avoid exposing myself to any more confirmation bias. Instead, I keep reading what you post, trying to challenge my own biases. How about you? Have you ever risked reading or viewing something that challenges your religion? It would be much appreciated if you could make an effort to understand the science so you could formulate an informed and technical response to these links, so we could have an intellectual discussion about the underlying science and evidence. Instead of this predictable attack the source rhetoric. And then wonder why most of us won't waste the time trying to help you understand.

Is a children's author any less qualified than an actor, a 16 year old uneducated child, or a socialist disenfranchised former CWB director?

[jazz]

Its not worth the bother because you don't believe in climate change science or scientists and it won't change your mind anyway.

I made a claim with evidence just like you have with climate change. My claim refutes yours, so now show us the peer reviewed published paper that says land based snowpack extent is actually falling and not increasing and destroy my argument, if you can.

[tweety]

I made a claim with evidence just like you have with climate change. My claim refutes yours, so now show us the peer reviewed published paper that says land based snowpack extent is actually falling and not increasing and destroy my argument, if you can.

Um......

[jazz]

[QUOTE=tweety;432087]Um......

That's great, so no annual changes, spring and fall balance out and snow pack is exactly the same year over year. Nice research.

And there is still no climate change.

[Taiga]

[QUOTE=jazz;432088]

Um......

That's great, so no annual changes, spring and fall balance out and snow pack is exactly the same year over year. Nice research.

And there is still no climate change.

I guess we can conclude fall comes earlier every year, and spring comes earlier too. We need more leap years in a row to get the earth back on schedule!

[chuckChuck]

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/snow-and-ice/extent/sea-ice/N/10

NOAA data does indeed show an increase in snow area in the autumn in the northern hemisphere.

But NOAA also shows a very dramatic drop in sea ice. Which contradicts the assumption that the climate is cooling.

Which is a more important indicator of climate, snow area or sea ice?

[jazz]

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Which is a more important indicator of climate, snow area or sea ice?

The seasonal land based snowpack has much more effect on the earths climate than some sea ice stuck at the pole trapped behind the jet stream.

It is also preceded by a meter of frost into the ground and then insulated by the snowpack all winter long and then all of it is melted released into the northern jet stream every spring which circles the global many times faster than any ocean currents.

Pesky logic.

[TASFarms]

Um......

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Where is that chart made up. Doesn’t look like anything that’s happened here in the last ten years

[jazz]

Where is that chart made up. Doesn’t look like anything that’s happened here in the last ten years

Its an extent graph, doesn't really affect us in Canada because we always get covered, but shows how far the pack is extending into the southern reaches of the US. Shows the season is being skewed. So when those egg heads say your degree days are increasing they forget to look at the shortened season at the back end. Its always manipulation to a narrative with the climate cult.

[chuckChuck]

The seasonal land based snowpack has much more effect on the earths climate than some sea ice stuck at the pole trapped behind the jet stream.

It is also preceded by a meter of frost into the ground and then insulated by the snowpack all winter long and then all of it is melted released into the northern jet stream every spring which circles the global many times faster than any ocean currents.

Pesky logic.

Is that for sure or are you just speculating? You seem so sure of yourself! Some would say over confident in your assumptions. Perhaps you are "legend in your own mind"?

Do you have a degree in climatology? And can you back your claim up with data and references?
If the earth is cooling why is the sea ice pack shrinking in the northern hemisphere?

[chuckChuck]

Its great to watch self declared arm chair experts with no background in climate science draw conclusions from one graph or factor when there are many to examine before drawing conclusions.

That is why NOAA NASA, and the World meterological Association have hundreds of scientists in various disciplines who work together to peer review their work before providing analysis and drawing conclusions.

But if you believe the science is all a great conspiracy then why even use snow cover analysis from NOAA?
Isn't NOAA one of the conspirators? LOL

[jazz]

If the earth is cooling why is the sea ice pack shrinking in the northern hemisphere?

Right back at you. If the earth is warming why are all the temp records from the 1880-1930 period before the modern oil age? Why is land based snow pack unaffected?

I have a phd in common sense and that's more than enough to destroy climate radicals.

[chuckChuck]

Right back at you. If the earth is warming why are all the temp records from the 1880-1930 period before the modern oil age? Why is land based snow pack unaffected?

I have a phd in common sense and that's more than enough to destroy climate radicals.

PHD in common sense? LMAO. You are an arrogant Asinus asinorum!

Humans started burning coal thousands of years ago. Coal use increased in during the industrial revolution from about 1760 -1840 says wikipedia.

Only fools make generalized over confident sweeping statements outside of their area of knowledge.

Smart people know enough to be cautious and rely on evidence.

[AllisWD45]

PHD in common sense? LMAO. You are an arrogant Asinus asinorum!

Humans started burning coal thousands of years ago. Coal use increased in during the industrial revolution from about 1760 -1840.

Only fools make generalized over confident sweeping statements outside of their area of knowledge.

Smart people know enough to be cautious and rely on evidence.

Oh!!!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

PHD in common sense? LMAO. You are an arrogant Asinus asinorum!

Humans started burning coal thousands of years ago. Coal use increased in during the industrial revolution from about 1760 -1840.

Only fools make generalized over confident sweeping statements outside of their area of knowledge.

Smart people know enough to be cautious and rely on evidence.

Oh, the hypocrisy is thick in that post.
Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

A certain saying about pots and kettles comes to mind also.