Chuck, some good news about renewables. No, really.

[chuckChuck]

Farmers are really the greatest harvesters of the sun whether it be in beef or pork or grain, we take what the sun gives us and it is harvested and stored to be consumed when necessary and our federal government with its carbon tax policies aim to make Canadian farmers uncompetitive with the rest of the world. This same government is going to spend billions more subsidizing Chinese solar panels and putting more Canadians in the energy industry on the unemployment line!!!

Conservative talking notes....blah blah blah. But lets keep subsidizing oil and gas and leave the mess for taxpayers to clean up? LOL

I collect solar energy all year long when the sun is shining which covers my average annual farm usage and its all carbon tax free.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Do you really think utilities would go all intermittent sources without adequate storage and leave consumers in the dark? LOL.

Yes, they according to recent experiences with blackouts in Texas, California, Australia, UK, Germany etc, they most definitely did go to too much intermittents without adequate storage.

Do you do any research at all before posting such rubbish?

[burnt]

Yes, they according to recent experiences with blackouts in Texas, California, Australia, UK, Germany etc, they most definitely did go to too much intermittents without adequate storage.

Do you do any research at all before posting such rubbish?

It appears to have been a rhetorical question?

Just surprised at the self-own.

[tweety]

Travers solar project, 3300 acres of land, just over 7 acres per megawatt. Power 100000 homes? Hmmm Amazon is buying most of the power. How many acres will it take to dispose of the solar panels in 25 years?

Maybe they can pile them on the abandoned lease land companies aren't paying rent for.

And how is the Alberta Oil and Gas doing?

The real problem, Boychuk said, is that Alberta's aging and depleted conventional oilpatch isn't profitable in today's energy market.

"This industry can't repay its mortgage. If the people operating this stuff don't have the resources to clean it up, they shouldn't be operating it."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/abandoned-wells-oil-gas-alberta-cost-report-1.6033830 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/abandoned-wells-oil-gas-alberta-cost-report-1.6033830

But hey giving billions in subsidies to the oil industry - no problem.

Our lifestyle isn't sustainable, that is the problem.

[Sheepwheat]

Cbc news . Alt left, all the time.

[makar]

Maybe they can pile them on the abandoned lease land companies aren't paying rent for.

And how is the Alberta Oil and Gas doing?

The real problem, Boychuk said, is that Alberta's aging and depleted conventional oilpatch isn't profitable in today's energy market.

"This industry can't repay its mortgage. If the people operating this stuff don't have the resources to clean it up, they shouldn't be operating it."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/abandoned-wells-oil-gas-alberta-cost-report-1.6033830 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/abandoned-wells-oil-gas-alberta-cost-report-1.6033830

But hey giving billions in subsidies to the oil industry - no problem.

Our lifestyle isn't sustainable, that is the problem.

There is a ukrainian word for not quite right in the head, must be be proud they had you in mind all those years ago.

[Hamloc]

Maybe they can pile them on the abandoned lease land companies aren't paying rent for.

And how is the Alberta Oil and Gas doing?

The real problem, Boychuk said, is that Alberta's aging and depleted conventional oilpatch isn't profitable in today's energy market.

"This industry can't repay its mortgage. If the people operating this stuff don't have the resources to clean it up, they shouldn't be operating it."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/abandoned-wells-oil-gas-alberta-cost-report-1.6033830 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/abandoned-wells-oil-gas-alberta-cost-report-1.6033830

But hey giving billions in subsidies to the oil industry - no problem.

Our lifestyle isn't sustainable, that is the problem.

I have various thoughts Tweety.

I personally believe fossil fuels have made great contributions to mankind’s quality of life. Having said that I would agree that past Alberta governments have failed in legislating that oil companies must clean up after themselves. But I have yet to see an affordable viable alternative that is any less damaging. I am sure you would disagree.

Is our lifestyle sustainable? All I can say is the land my great grandfather began farming in 1906 is far more productive today.

[chuckChuck]

Yes, they according to recent experiences with blackouts in Texas, California, Australia, UK, Germany etc, they most definitely did go to too much intermittents without adequate storage.

Do you do any research at all before posting such rubbish?

Speaking of rubbish A5 , have you not learned your lesson yet on not to make sweeping statements about complex subjects across several jurisdictions without some evidence to back up your claims?

Its absolute rubbish to suggest that renewable electricity and a current lack of storage are the cause of all the electricity shortages or blackouts in the long list of countries and states you mentioned. How would you have all the detailed analysis of the generation, distribution and system interconnections required to make such a statement? Did you read it on social media so it must be true? LOL

The shortages wouldn't have anything to do with record electricity demand exceeding supply, as some regions deal with record heat and increasing AC demand? No, that wouldn't be possible would it?

Where is your research or case studies that back up your claim that the shortages are all caused by renewables?

It was widely reported that Texas's blackouts last winter were the result of a freezing temperatures that froze up their gas supplies which caused gas plants to go down.

But you tried to blame it all on renewables then too.

[Guest]

Speaking of rubbish A5 , have you not learned your lesson yet on not to make sweeping statements about complex subjects across several jurisdictions without some evidence to back up your claims?

Its absolute rubbish to suggest that renewable electricity and a current lack of storage are the cause of all the electricity shortages or blackouts in the long list of countries and states you mentioned. How would you have all the detailed analysis of the generation, distribution and system interconnections required to make such a statement? Did you read it on social media so it must be true? LOL

The shortages wouldn't have anything to do with record electricity demand exceeding supply, as some regions deal with record heat and increasing AC demand? No, that wouldn't be possible would it?

Where is your research or case studies that back up your claim that the shortages are all caused by renewables?

It was widely reported that Texas's blackouts last winter were the result of a freezing temperatures that froze up their gas supplies which caused gas plants to go down.

But you tried to blame it all on renewables then too.

FREEZING TEMPS IN SOUTH TEXAS
but, but, but , global warming , WTF ??

[AlbertaFarmer5]

FREEZING TEMPS IN SOUTH TEXAS
but, but, but , global warming , WTF ??

You beat me to it.
Contradicts himself in almost every post.
Then gets mad when no one takes him seriously.
Perhaps he should just leave science up to the scientists. He is certainly making their jobs much more difficult.
Clueless.

[chuckChuck]

A5 I see you want to avoid responding to be called out on your sweeping generalizations with no evidence.

Instead you and case revert to the denier fiction that a single freezing event in Texas is an indication that climate change is not happening? LOL

Just more flat earth "science" at work.

[chuckChuck]

Some Astronomy from A5 and Case

[Hamloc]

A5 I see you want to avoid responding to be called out on your sweeping generalizations with no evidence.

Instead you and case revert to the denier fiction that a single freezing event in Texas is an indication that climate change is not happening? LOL

Just more flat earth "science" at work.

Here is some “flat earth” science for you Chuck2. In Alberta 12% of our electricity generation capacity comes from wind. Yesterday we hit 11700 mwh of electricity demand and the AESO put out an alert that they were reaching a shortage of generation as 2 plants went down. Wind was only producing in the mid 300 mwh during this time period, at roughly 17.5% capacity, which amounted to just under 3% of Alberta’s needs. At the same time Alberta’s pool price for electricity reached its maximum of $999 a kwh. Yup I am definitely the “flat earther” lol!

[Guest]

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Some Astronomy from A5 and Case

That picture is racist , you are proving your racist

[chuckChuck]

Here is some “flat earth” science for you Chuck2. In Alberta 12% of our electricity generation capacity comes from wind. Yesterday we hit 11700 mwh of electricity demand and the AESO put out an alert that they were reaching a shortage of generation as 2 plants went down. Wind was only producing in the mid 300 mwh during this time period, at roughly 17.5% capacity, which amounted to just under 3% of Alberta’s needs. At the same time Alberta’s pool price for electricity reached its maximum of $999 a kwh. Yup I am definitely the “flat earther” lol!

Hamloc, why are you so upset about the high prices in a deregulated free market electricity system in Alberta when market driven signals is what you want? Or you could enjoy a cheaper regulated price in Sasky!

You forgot to mention that solar systems are maxing out during all this sunny dry weather.

The majority of electrical generation Alberta still comes from fossil fuels.

So why blame only renewables for the shortfall during a heatwave and record demand? Didn't 2 fossil fuel plants stop generating also? So I guess fossil fuel plants can be intermittent too?

https://www.dispatcho.app/

Take a look at dispatcho to see the diversity of generation sources and the current share of production.