Just for you Chuck

[chuckChuck]

Show us the scientific evidence that Quebec and Manitoba hydroelectric dams produce more CO2 and methane than equivalent fossil fuel generation?

Brazil has a very different climate and every dam is different. Correct? It would be speculation at best to assume the same applies in Canada.

Fossil fuels also vary in the amount of fossil energy required to produce them. So factor those differences in as well. Tar sands vs light crude, natural gas vs coal.

I didn't say there was no environmental impact from hydro electric. They have a big environmental foot print!

Glad to see you didn't defend Gunters biased opinions which was the main point of my post.

Did you check the electricity rates in NA?

[Hamloc]

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2019/11/11/Climate-Change-Realist-Face-Facts/ https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2019/11/11/Climate-Change-Realist-Face-Facts/ ]

This is your guy Chuck.

He says your spinning your wheels.

You need Pol Pot back to give all those city folk hoes and move them all back to the farm.

Good article. The most significant take home message for me was that demand for electricity is increasing at a faster rate than the amount of electricity generated from wind and solar! Plus his acknowledgement that solar panels and wind turbines have to be replaced every 15-20 years. We are in a very sad time in Canada where the production of fossil fuels is so vilified and the reality is that there is no real alternative! Very dangerous virtue signalling by those in power.

[chuckChuck]

Lots of vilification of renewable sources of elelectricity by some. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Harper the Conservative western oil backed prime minister also signed a G7 agreement that we would stop using fossil fuels for energy by 2100. Why was he not vilified for that ageeement? Many of you voted for him after the agreement was signed.

[chuckChuck]

Just for you chuckchuck 🖕🖕

Can’t keep up with the debate? Thanks for your intelligent thoughtful contribution.

Thanks for giving up.

[chuckChuck]

chuckchuck go away !

It’s your choice to participate in this thread.
If you can’t add anything intelligent to the discussion then you should exit.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Lots of vilification of renewable sources of elelectricity by some. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Harper the Conservative western oil backed prime minister also signed a G7 agreement that we would stop using fossil fuels for energy by 2100. Why was he not vilified for that ageeement? Many of you voted for him after the agreement was signed.

No, the truth is nowhere near the middle, the truth lies firmly on the side of science and economics. And as of 2019, all increasing use of renewables causes electricity prices to rise far out of proportion to their contribution, and negatively affects reliability. You have yet to find a single exception to this truth, in spite of repeatedly being asked. No one would be vilifying renewable energy sources if they lowered costs and didn't disrupt reliability.

[chuckChuck]

No, the truth is nowhere near the middle, the truth lies firmly on the side of science and economics. And as of 2019, all increasing use of renewables causes electricity prices to rise far out of proportion to their contribution, and negatively affects reliability. You have yet to find a single exception to this truth, in spite of repeatedly being asked. No one would be vilifying renewable energy sources if they lowered costs and didn't disrupt reliability.

Making broad sweeping generalizations again? It’s a big world. Where is the science and data to back up your claims in every jurisdiction? You are speculating!

[TASFarms]

"For instance, Ontario Liberal policies gave that province the highest electricity costs on the continent, which contributed to the loss of 200,000 manufacturing jobs in the past 15 years. That should make the architects of Ontario’s “green” energy policies contrite and apologetic. Instead, they are now trying to duplicate their disaster on a national scale."

Absolute biased bullshit from Gunter. Ontario electricity prices for large users are less than NewYork, Boston and Nashville. Residential users in Toronto are paying way less than many major US cities.

http://www.hydroquebec.com/data/documents-donnees/pdf/comparison-electricity-prices.pdf http://www.hydroquebec.com/data/documents-donnees/pdf/comparison-electricity-prices.pdf

One of the biggest factors in job losses in Ontario during the period was the high CAD that was result of the energy and commodity boom which drove the loonie higher. When we have a high CAD our exports are more expensive to importers which makes us less competitive. There are lots of other factors as well. Gunter is trying to lay the blame on electricity prices but the facts tell a different story.

If electricity prices are the most important factor in economic activity then Quebec and Manitoba should be booming because they have the cheapest electricity in North America by far! Its also the cleanest and most renewable because it comes from hydro!

One name that comes to mind. Gerald Butts.

https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/gerald-butts-still-denies-responsibility-for-a-bigger-scandal-ontarios-green-energy-catastrophe/amp

[blackpowder]

Yes, Quebec hydro, the revenue from which, is treated far differently than others.

[mustardman]

Yes, Quebec hydro, the revenue from which, is treated far differently than others.

You can thank our little Mennonite from Swift Current for Not getting that changed. When Brad Wall Became Premier the Previous Govt Under Lorne Calvert had a Court Challenge going against Harper since he had Backed Out of changing the Equalization formula that would take natural resources Out of the formula.
Harper Told Bradley to drop the case ,and he did. Now 12 year later thats all the sask party and UCP talk about...changing Equalization

So I guess the Conservatives Only Want to change Equalization if the Liberals are in power, if they’re in power all is good