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    #25
    Originally posted by dave4441 View Post
    2 Million MT yellow pea market into China (about half our sales) as developed directly by Pulse Canada. It did not exist prior.

    CDC lentil and pea breeding program has had a massive difference affect on our farms.
    6 dollar peas is a good thing for primary producers? Good for you processors maybe....not so good for farmers....

    CDC and saskpulse are ending a partnership....and can you comment on the king red giveaway.....

    Some of you misunderstood the question....let me try again...


    Where is the improvement to the farm gate...maybe you haven't noticed the drop off in net farm income? Its like saying a new decal makes a better combine for that extra 100,000....

    I repeat ...to the farm gate ...to improved financial well being of farmers....no one else has taken a haircut on finances worse than farmers....the railways will be getting an increase to make up for the increased demand from this strike...

    The grain cheques don't look better with what you just said....neither does the net....and it doesn't matter if a guy is growing the newest varieties...

    You guys are missing the point ....and are a disservice to farmers ...if farmers are not successful how can processors be unless you are like other industries on a steady drip of government money...
    Last edited by bucket; Nov 28, 2019, 16:00.

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      #26
      Originally posted by dave4441 View Post
      2 Million MT yellow pea market into China (about half our sales) as developed directly by Pulse Canada. It did not exist prior.

      CDC lentil and pea breeding program has had a massive difference affect on our farms.

      Saskpulse paid Richard Grey $50,000 plus to "study" wether sending whole peas and lentils to Kazahkstan would have a negative effect on our markets through them using these for seed and becoming competitors.


      Their conclusion was nah, those people are too stupid to do something like that.


      Today? Hmmm... I guess we've found out who is the dummy.


      As far as Pulse Canada "developing" the Chinese market... Give me a break.

      I didn't realize Pulse Canada funded the Instituto de Recursos Naturales y Agrobiología de Salamanca (IRNASA‐CSIC) in Salamanca, Spain.

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        #27
        Also current farm gate prices for Russian 12.5% wheat are $5.76 a bushel CAD with 13.5% almost 70 cents higher.


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          #28
          Originally posted by Zephyr View Post
          Saskpulse paid Richard Grey $50,000 plus to "study" wether sending whole peas and lentils to Kazahkstan would have a negative effect on our markets through them using these for seed and becoming competitors.


          Their conclusion was nah, those people are too stupid to do something like that.


          Today? Hmmm... I guess we've found out who is the dummy.


          As far as Pulse Canada "developing" the Chinese market... Give me a break.

          I didn't realize Pulse Canada funded the Instituto de Recursos Naturales y Agrobiología de Salamanca (IRNASA‐CSIC) in Salamanca, Spain.
          Khakistan was given our European market for flax....probably provided clean genetics for them as well ...and since the Triffid event in Canada we got the chinese market as a consolation prize....Khakistan or Russian are building a flax processing plant ...nothing happening in Canada....except the Saskflax board members are per dieming on other so called farm groups....like GGC

          And once the silk road is done I hope I have more cattle...because no one wants quality grains and if they do ...they are not paying for it....

          BTW .... Russia has the equivalent of our former crow rate...and have invested in infrastructure...

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            #29
            Originally posted by bucket View Post
            Khakistan was given our European market for flax....probably provided clean genetics for them as well ...and since the Triffid event in Canada we got the chinese market as a consolation prize....Khakistan or Russian are building a flax processing plant ...nothing happening in Canada....except the Saskflax board members are per dieming on other so called farm groups....like GGC

            And once the silk road is done I hope I have more cattle...because no one wants quality grains and if they do ...they are not paying for it....

            BTW .... Russia has the equivalent of our former crow rate...and have invested in infrastructure...
            Yes... and now they are creating a national grains marketing program.


            Russia is an excellent place to do business in. 60% of our non-farm enterprises' business is to Russia. And we didn't take a penny of Canadian money to further our business.

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              #30
              Originally posted by Zephyr View Post
              Saskpulse paid Richard Grey $50,000 plus to "study" wether sending whole peas and lentils to Kazahkstan would have a negative effect on our markets through them using these for seed and becoming competitors.


              Their conclusion was nah, those people are too stupid to do something like that.


              Today? Hmmm... I guess we've found out who is the dummy.


              As far as Pulse Canada "developing" the Chinese market... Give me a break.

              I didn't realize Pulse Canada funded the Instituto de Recursos Naturales y Agrobiología de Salamanca (IRNASA‐CSIC) in Salamanca, Spain.
              OK, I will bite. What was the first use of yellow peas in china? What are the current uses of yellow peas? What are green peas used for?


              How do you stop the flow of genetics to a country like Kazakhstan? You cant. All they have to do is order a container of export product and plant it. You can't stop it. Incidentally, lentil genetics don't tend to travel well very far anyway, unlike peas which do travel well. Kazakhstan lentils trade at a discount to Canadian due to poorer split yields. Much of our pea genetics used in Canada came from Europe, our chickpeas industry started with Sanford and Dwelley seed from USA. We just imported seed and planted it. Canadian red lentil industry originated from seed imported from USA under crimson. Canada stole the green lentil industry from Turkey to begin with. Wiped them out and now our competitive pressure is coming from Russia on green lentils. What i am getting at is continued research from both genetics, agronomy and policy is the only thing that will allow us to remain competitive. Sitting on Agriville complaining nothing is being done is laughable at best.

              Why the f--k i continue to care about this stuff is beyond me. I spent my time at Saskpulse and represented Saskpulse at Pulse Canada as well. Spent 40 days per year on board business plus about one conference call per week. Try making that kind of commitment while running a family farm and a processing company. It was mind blowing the amount of work that was being done and the staff at both organizations are second to none.

              I had some difference of opinions on how the King Red and Queen green programs laid out but in the end it was handled how it was handled. Both of those programs have been a flop actually, they should have been broad release. Additionally i am not happy about the changes in distribution of seed that will happen in the future. Not happy at all but it is time for a new blood to lead at Sask pulse. The current system of broad release royalty free shot us ahead of the world and provided massive value to growers. Maxim lentils where responsible for putting massive amounts of income into farmers hands a few years ago. We couldn't have road that gravy train using crimson lentils.

              If the seed program is moved to a royalty system i would guess that there will be a shift to a refundable levy at Saskpulse and you guys can get your levy back and just freeload on the agronomy and policy work that you think isn't happening.

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                #31
                Originally posted by dave4441 View Post
                OK, I will bite. What was the first use of yellow peas in china? What are the current uses of yellow peas? What are green peas used for?


                How do you stop the flow of genetics to a country like Kazakhstan? You cant. All they have to do is order a container of export product and plant it. You can't stop it. Incidentally, lentil genetics don't tend to travel well very far anyway, unlike peas which do travel well. Kazakhstan lentils trade at a discount to Canadian due to poorer split yields. Much of our pea genetics used in Canada came from Europe, our chickpeas industry started with Sanford and Dwelley seed from USA. We just imported seed and planted it. Canadian red lentil industry originated from seed imported from USA under crimson. Canada stole the green lentil industry from Turkey to begin with. Wiped them out and now our competitive pressure is coming from Russia on green lentils. What i am getting at is continued research from both genetics, agronomy and policy is the only thing that will allow us to remain competitive. Sitting on Agriville complaining nothing is being done is laughable at best.

                Why the f--k i continue to care about this stuff is beyond me. I spent my time at Saskpulse and represented Saskpulse at Pulse Canada as well. Spent 40 days per year on board business plus about one conference call per week. Try making that kind of commitment while running a family farm and a processing company. It was mind blowing the amount of work that was being done and the staff at both organizations are second to none.

                I had some difference of opinions on how the King Red and Queen green programs laid out but in the end it was handled how it was handled. Both of those programs have been a flop actually, they should have been broad release. Additionally i am not happy about the changes in distribution of seed that will happen in the future. Not happy at all but it is time for a new blood to lead at Sask pulse. The current system of broad release royalty free shot us ahead of the world and provided massive value to growers. Maxim lentils where responsible for putting massive amounts of income into farmers hands a few years ago. We couldn't have road that gravy train using crimson lentils.

                If the seed program is moved to a royalty system i would guess that there will be a shift to a refundable levy at Saskpulse and you guys can get your levy back and just freeload on the agronomy and policy work that you think isn't happening.
                Another self back patter ...good for you....summed it up nicely with text from who?

                Another Trudeaulike script reader.....

                You and Lee Moats must get along very well...probably shared a few excursions together....

                And were you on the saskpulse board for farmers or for your processing business to gain business using the checkoff expense account?

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                  #32
                  Saskpulse develops a variety or pays into it ...at the very least they should add up their investment and add a profit and call it their reserve bid before they allow private labelling to take advantage of my checkoff dollars...

                  Agronomy, variety , and production all have to equal the ability to move the product and find the markets...


                  They have to start look wider in their acclaim to be working on behalf of producers or we will all be out of business....

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                    #33
                    No one has identified a better financial return to primary producers....short term maybe but on a long term nothing....

                    When buying land or equipment ...the first payment is easy...its the ones that follow that might sink you because while the payments are locked.....revenue isn't forecastable, guaranteed nor stable....

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                      #34
                      Originally posted by bucket View Post
                      Another self back patter ...good for you....summed it up nicely with text from who?

                      Another Trudeaulike script reader.....

                      You and Lee Moats must get along very well...probably shared a few excursions together....

                      And were you on the saskpulse board for farmers or for your processing business to gain business using the checkoff expense account?
                      I am the script reader? You have been whining for years and years that everything is everyone else's fault while you sit on your ass. You talk about going to one of the ADM's "if you can". You have said this for three years. Whats been so pressing?

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                        #35
                        Originally posted by dave4441 View Post
                        I am the script reader? You have been whining for years and years that everything is everyone else's fault while you sit on your ass. You talk about going to one of the ADM's "if you can". You have said this for three years. Whats been so pressing?
                        Well I enjoy being with my kids for one ...whether it be hockey or school sports....I have cattle....I don't enjoy winter travelling....going to meetings and coming home realizing I can't get the time back is getting old....

                        Mostly my check off pays for people to do the work ...I don't hire employees and then do the work myself.....do you?


                        I have suggested many good ideas to boards .....

                        As a matter of fact I had a good conversation with GGC chatterbox the other day...they cancelled their press conference when they had an opportunity to speak on other issues since the CN strike was over .....they didn't. ...can't work in environment when there is only one task to accomplish at a time....

                        They had no backup ready to speak on other agricultural issues...

                        But the CN strike highlights reactive thinking instead of being proactive.....and it's like that everywhere....

                        Get involved you say...to clean up the mess you have admitted to starting while you were there. ..no thanks ....but I will keep sending good ideas to the deaf board...


                        When you get cold called from the chair about calling directors....it's an uphill battle ....to change things....

                        Saskpulse doesn't run elections...they recruit directors...the previous election a board member resigned they day after nominations closed to make room ...that's not very much vision on a directors part....


                        BTW when I did go to the seed tax meeting in Saskatoon last December into a stacked room of pro seed tax advocates...that was meant for farmers not seed growers.....I didn't wait for the question period ...first I asked how more yield and better quality is going to be moved when the infrastructure isn't there and neither are the markets.....I was quite intrigued by how some of the government officials sat down to talk to me...so I had my time with explaining the cost of the flax phuckup to government officials and how it relates to the seed tax....the questions were who makes them accountable for dud varieties or closed markets ...did Anthony Parker listen.... I dont know but he got my opinion ...

                        And one other thing....I am not looking for fame ...I like to think my opinions are that of an average run of the mill farmer who really don't have a voice...which is why I remain behind this name bucket or dumbphuckled farmer hoping others will speak up as an average farmer. who share the same politically incorrect to the masses opinion.....and in my opinion is the silent majority....
                        Last edited by bucket; Nov 29, 2019, 10:06.

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                          #36
                          Read the Science issue of the Canola Digest.

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