What Jason Kenney and Albertans can learn from Texas

[jazz]

Sorry but that’s the brainwashed mentality that technology in an industry on the way out is good??? .

Seriously wheel you think the govt is trying to drive farmers off the land so oil companies can get the land? I agree they have an outsized voice.

Processing and manufacturing were centered down east on purpose decades ago. We aren't going to replace that.

And oil is hardly on the way out. Projected demand is 110m bbl per day by 2050.

Of course there are some niche opportunities that are overlooked I think especially in ethanol and biodiesel. Pulse protein seems to be a logical step. But most of that tech will be related to what we already produce.

[Oliver88]

Corrections to the Fake News above:

World demand for oil is increasing and will be for several decades.
Oil pipelines are great. Any time we can remove oil from rail which should be used for grain and send in a pipeline we should do it.
Saskatchewan has a balanced budget for 2020.

[Hamloc]

The question is why are these large companies attracted to Texas? I am willing to bet it has nothing to do with subsidies! My guess it is proximity to market combined with an affordable work force and low taxes. The author of this article apparently believes as most people on the left do that business needs government direction and government subsidy. It has been my experience that by the time government realizes there is an opportunity it has long passed!!!

[the big wheel]

Corrections to the Fake News above:

World demand for oil is increasing and will be for several decades.
Oil pipelines are great. Any time we can remove oil from rail which should be used for grain and send in a pipeline we should do it.
Saskatchewan has a balanced budget for 2020.

Lmao ag is in a good situation? And pipelines are the solution to ag problems??? Holy fk???
Mary Jane must be really cheap in your neck of the woods

We re looking at electric and solar as a static situation it isn’t its being improved as it goes. What did the 3 big auto manufacturers just announce recently? 30% wasn’t it will be electric not to far off. Cities already are going that way

And there is so much oil everywhere it all was a hoax remember high prices because oil was running out? That was a scam. Nobody needs our oil to survive during the duration of the change to other energy sources.
Especially with the Middle East being given to Russia.

We re all being conned. We have oil puppets that have had majority governments in Ottawa and provincially yet too stupid to figure this all out. What should be done is the oil revenue should be used to transfer our economy away from oil long term but it’s not we don’t collect enough from the oil to even pay the infrastructure costs. So we have the sales tax woo hoo wow isn’t that great. The more oil we produce the more farmers pay the cost of it expanding can’t you see that?

And sask does not have a balanced budget they’re taking money from the crowns that has to go back or maybe it won’t we ll all pay more for that also just like the *** useless shit program of crop insurance.

Maybe we need another transportation hub in Saskatoon? The one in Regina is so good. Lmao

[the big wheel]

The question is why are these large companies attracted to Texas? I am willing to bet it has nothing to do with subsidies! My guess it is proximity to market combined with an affordable work force and low taxes. The author of this article apparently believes as most people on the left do that business needs government direction and government subsidy. It has been my experience that by the time government realizes there is an opportunity it has long passed!!!

Do you know actual number that oil is susbsidized? There wouldn’t be an oil company here at all if it wasn’t for government consessions. So why not susbsidize things that are the future?

You are correct by the time our governments realize that oil is not the future the other opportunities will pass we will be so broke we won’t be able to do anything else.

I remember so well how the sask parry bragged about how they lowered oil royalties and look at the big boom man were they smart hey? That was a subsidy because as we all know now but some don’t want to admit the pst is pay for that mismanaged situation the more it expanded the more it cost anyone not in the oil industry. That’s not how it’s supposed to work.

[Taiga]

The question is why are these large companies attracted to Texas? I am willing to bet it has nothing to do with subsidies! My guess it is proximity to market combined with an affordable work force and low taxes. The author of this article apparently believes as most people on the left do that business needs government direction and government subsidy. It has been my experience that by the time government realizes there is an opportunity it has long passed!!!

They are attracted to Texas simply because the economics are so much more favourable. Refineries and export ports are close. Unlimited labour. Flowlines are literally on the surface of the ground, big pipe is buried. No winter. Way less regulation and no regulation that is designed to ensure a project will never pass. Frac sand is very close, lots of mines. Pressures are lower. Power is an issue but everything is still electrified. Wellsite and access road construction costs are minimal, just need a grader, versus a fleet of dozers and rock trucks. And on and on.

[jazz]

Do you know actual number that oil is susbsidized? There wouldn’t be an oil company here at all if it wasn’t for government consessions. So why not susbsidize things that are the future?

And there wouldn't be an ag industry here without crop insurance, or Bombardier etc .

Why single out oil? Did you have a bad experience or what?

The govt has no idea what the future is when they are locked in a 4 yr election cycle.

[the big wheel]

And there wouldn't be an ag industry here without crop insurance, or Bombardier etc .

Why single out oil? Did you have a bad experience or what?

The govt has no idea what the future is when they are locked in a 4 yr election cycle.

If your implying we are getting subsidized what oil is wow??????
What we provide to the country never mind the province is not valued only the buyers and Monsanto’s etc have the gov ear.

Bad experience with oil? Lmao. What was the price at the pumps when oil is tanked? What happens to our cost as a farmer when oil booms? The reason all the parts repairs nee etc have gone up is because of the oil industry paying anything stupid because they can to have rhe John Deere and others come out to
Them. Then we pay both ways for it at the pumps and at the dealer we need. So yes you be had a bad experience also but don’t want to admit it due to your blinded one sided political view.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

What Alberta can learn from Texas, is that when we separate from Canada, and become a state with equal representation, we will no longer have a federal government (regardless of party on either side of the border), wilfully destroying economic incentive. To compare any other factor when the federal politics and policies are so diametrically opposed is completely worthless.

Have you ever had an original thought of your own Chuck, you know, in your own words, or even a paraphrase of someone else's? Or just here to mindlessly pass along the official party propaganda?

[jazz]

Its weird to run into someone like BL who hates the patch. I mean oil leases and seismic and crop damages and all that are the reason our farm survived the 80s. I am sure there are thousands of farmers in the same boat and then a guy hates oil like that and somehow equates it to all his farming hardship, gives everything else a pass. Doesnt make sense.