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    #31
    The carbon tax is specifically designed NOT to work no matter what the eggheads will tell you. They know well that people do not have alternatives to these expenditures so they will keep siphoning it, spreading it around for votes, drop some scarmongering reports and then raise it. Got to sell fear first then people will vote for their own enslavement.

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      #32
      Interesting insight to a socialists mind. The premiers fault for faulty implementation of a federal law, that is incredibly faulty. Baha, a peculiar specie of idiot.

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        #33
        And you can’t pass all these extra costs of doing business on, like every other business is able to, that is the real kick in the teeth. Still have to hold your hand out and beg ‘what will you give me for my grain?’.

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          #34
          Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
          Interesting insight to a socialists mind. The premiers fault for faulty implementation of a federal law, that is incredibly faulty. Baha, a peculiar specie of idiot.
          Which is why I advocate for allowing the Socialist trolls to continue to contribute, even though there is a regular call for banning them from the site. It is so enlightening to understand how they view the world, and they provide this information voluntarily.

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            #35
            I never advocate for banishment.
            My zen requires I block them however.
            I only now read these morsels as reposts.

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              #36
              Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
              Interesting insight to a socialists mind. The premiers fault for faulty implementation of a federal law, that is incredibly faulty. Baha, a peculiar specie of idiot.
              But not surprising that this is his conclusion. The apologists for socialism/communism have always blamed their failures on the improper application of their theories, never on the theories themselves. In this case, the blame is once removed from the source, but the message remains constant, it could never be the fault of the flawed economic system. We just always happen to do it wrong, and it inevitably results in human death and suffering, but next time we will get it right.

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                #37
                Its quite ironic to watch farmers who regularly receive taxpayers support complain about socialism when they directly and indirectly benefit from subsidies to their farms which is a form of wealth redistribution!

                Many farmers get their loans from the state owned Farm Credit Canada which provides direct competition to the private sector.

                Most farmers get subsidized crop insurance from the state owned Saskatchewan Crop Insurance Corporation.

                In Sask Party Saskatchewan, state owned utilities like Sask Power and Sasktel are widely supported and often deliver great service at lower costs.

                The education and healthcare systems are more or less state run.

                The public road system is state owned.

                Many irrigation systems in Alberta and Saskatchewan were built and owned and/or subsidized by the state.

                So let us know when you want to give up all the socialist benefits of state owned enterprises and supports and subsidies that make life and agriculture in Canada better.

                And maybe you shouldn't be so quick to call everyone and everything you disagree with as socialist! Because you would have to add yourself to the list and it makes you a hypocrite! LOL

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                  #38
                  Fair bit of truth to that Chuck. Wealth transfers are so common in canuckistan that the discussion comes down to I will give up my subsidies when you give up yours. The biggest subsidy of them all was artificial low interest rates provided by government money printing. Large operators could expand with free capital. However the day is coming when government is broke and then free markets will re emerge. I am not old enough to know what a free market looks like so that day will be a shock to us all.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                    Its quite ironic to watch farmers who regularly receive taxpayers support complain about socialism when they directly and indirectly benefit from subsidies to their farms which is a form of wealth redistribution!

                    Many farmers get their loans from the state owned Farm Credit Canada which provides direct competition to the private sector.

                    Most farmers get subsidized crop insurance from the state owned Saskatchewan Crop Insurance Corporation.

                    In Sask Party Saskatchewan, state owned utilities like Sask Power and Sasktel are widely supported and often deliver great service at lower costs.

                    The education and healthcare systems are more or less state run.

                    The public road system is state owned.

                    Many irrigation systems in Alberta and Saskatchewan were built and owned and/or subsidized by the state.

                    So let us know when you want to give up all the socialist benefits of state owned enterprises and supports and subsidies that make life and agriculture in Canada better.

                    And maybe you shouldn't be so quick to call everyone and everything you disagree with as socialist! Because you would have to add yourself to the list and it makes you a hypocrite! LOL


                    I pay interest on my mortgage loans thro FCC like everyone who borrows money.
                    Crop insurances is a joke and dont use it.
                    last I checkedy power and phone bill were the same as my folks who live in saskatoon... no subsidy there.
                    gladly pay private health insurances instead of being taxed 30 plus% on my off farm wage for 12 month hospital waiting lists... roads in this province are a joke.
                    so a handleful of farmers got irritated subsidized acres. I would give it all up in a heartbeat chucky. the wealth distribution comes from an industry when it is thriving and booming not beaten down like stray dog around every corner.

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                      #40
                      "I pay interest on my mortgage loans thro FCC like everyone who borrows money.
                      Crop insurances is a joke and dont use it.
                      last I checkedy power and phone bill were the same as my folks who live in saskatoon... no subsidy there.
                      gladly pay private health insurances instead of being taxed 30 plus% on my off farm wage for 12 month hospital waiting lists... roads in this province are a joke.
                      so a handleful of farmers got irritated subsidized acres. I would give it all up in a heartbeat chucky. the wealth distribution comes from an industry when it is thriving and booming not beaten down like stray dog around every corner."

                      Without FCC banks could charge a lot more interest. FCC makes them more competitive because the mandate of the FCC is to serve agriculture.

                      Coorection, the Sask Power rural farm rate is lower than the residential rate even though the cost of delivering power to many dispersed farms is higher.

                      Mobile phone rates are too high, but Sasktel competition keep them lower than in many other provinces with pretty good rural coverage.

                      The US system of healthcare costs way more per capita and leaves many Americans without good insurance coverage. Health care costs in the US cause a lot of personal bankruptcy. Just what you need when you are sick and or elderly! And if you are chronically sick you wont get coverage. They will drop you.

                      Most of the roads I drive on are good. We could switch to a user pay system and then every load of grain you ship or haul would cost a lot more! Why should non driving city folk subsidize your road and highway system if they don't use them?

                      If you are farming you are getting several indirect and direct subsidies. Do I need to list them?
                      Last edited by chuckChuck; Dec 1, 2019, 09:42.

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