carbon tax

[chuckChuck]

"Total greenhouse gas emissions in 2017 in B.C. were 64.5 million tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent. This is a 1.2% increase in emissions since 2016 and a 0.5% decrease in emissions since 2007—the Government of British Columbia's baseline year for assessing reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. Greenhouse gas emission estimates reported here are from the British Columbia Greenhouse Gas Emission Inventory (2017) and do not include forest management offsets."

This portion of the thread is about BC and their carbon tax.

You said the carbon tax isn't working in BC. You are wrong. GDP has grown substantially and the total emissions have changed very little.

http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/soe/indicat...emissions.html http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/soe/indicat...emissions.html

"British Columbians are generating fewer greenhouse gases. Greenhouse gas emissions per person in British Columbia have declined over the past decade and stabilized in recent years. Greenhouse gas emissions per unit gross domestic product—a measure of the size of the economy—are on the decline in B.C."


Show us the evidence on the USA from an independent credible source.

[chuckChuck]

"Emissions in energy used have been falling since 2007 while the GHG intensity of the economy has fallen rapidly since 2007. BC GHGs were below 2007 levels before 2016 and have since increased to 2007 levels. Annually, GHGs jump around, with annual growth negative in 4 of the last 10 years for which we have data. Still, with a growing economy and declining emissions, the historical data indicate that BC’s GHG intensity per unit of GDP, a leading indicator of decarbonization success, fell 19 percent since 2007. Different economic sectors have very different emissions intensities, and it matters where economic growth occurs. Emissions-intensive natural gas production in British Columbia grew 61 percent between 2007 and 2017 while oil production grew 39 percent. These high-emissions-intensive sectors have muted improvements in emissions intensity from other sectors in BC’s economy."

[AlbertaFarmer5]

No, this thread wasn't originally about BC's CO2 tax, it was about the failure of CO2 tax to dissuade farmers from using fossil fuels to dry their grain, you took it off on a tangent about BC.

[chuckChuck]

A5 why are you worrying about the carbon tax or greenhouse gas emissions because you don't believe in human caused climate change science anyway.

So why waste our time telling us that carbon taxes don't work. According to you there is no problem so why bother discussing any measures to reduce emissions?

[chuckChuck]

No, this thread wasn't originally about BC's CO2 tax, it was about the failure of CO2 tax to dissuade farmers from using fossil fuels to dry their grain, you took it off on a tangent about BC.

The thread title is Carbon tax

[jazz]

The thread title is Carbon tax

Growth in BC GDP in the past decade was solely due to onshoring of foreign money to the RE market. Got nothing at all to do with the carbon tax.

BCs real drivers of GDP forestry mining oil and gas are on the skids and now the RE market is teetering. BC will be the next have not province.

Chucks cut and paste skills are useless and just show someone's disconnect with reality. They used to electric shock people like him.

[Hamloc]

A5 why are you worrying about the carbon tax or greenhouse gas emissions because you don't believe in human caused climate change science anyway.

So why waste our time telling us that carbon taxes don't work. According to you there is no problem so why bother discussing any measures to reduce emissions?

Chuck what always amazes me is how people like yourself attempting to prove how wonderful B.C.'s carbon tax always use 2007. In 2008 B.C.'s carbon emissions dropped 2-3 mega tonnes going by memory, I would have to look, due to the economic recession that began in 2008. If you compare 2017 emissions to 2008 in B.C. they have gone up. The fact still remains that B.C.'s total emissions have not gone down and continue to rise contrary to IPCC policy. The other fact you continue to talk about is farmer's being exempt from carbon taxes! This is not true on natural gas and propane used for heating or drying grain. We pay carbon tax on both and consumption has not decreased. You refuse to directly address both points!!!

[blackpowder]

So a steep increase in the road tax should increase gdp as well.
Right, I forgot that all the carbon tax income is going to the new green industry income driver.
How lucky we are to live in a country where a heavy consumption tax actually raises the standard of living.
Now we can develop our warp drive at last.

[fjlip]

"The other fact you continue to talk about is farmer's being exempt from carbon taxes! This is not true on natural gas and propane used for heating or drying grain. We pay carbon tax on both and consumption has not decreased."

And we are supposed to pay for ON ROAD diesel hauling grain/livestock! Good luck calculating that FEDS!

[fjlip]

Still, with a growing economy and declining emissions, the historical data indicate that BC’s GHG intensity per unit of GDP, a leading indicator of decarbonization success, fell 19 percent since 2007.


CC you can discuss the hell out of C02 models, estimates, calculations, forecasts, most of us have a real hard time believing any of the CLAIMED figures. Impossible to prove for sure. Any can be ADJUSTED to fir the desired result. Massive amount of data, many humans inputting, errors can be huge. Same with a WORLD average temperature, real simple to arrive at that to a tenth of a degree...it's to complex to be simply C02!