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    #13
    Let me get this straight....ALberta and Saskatchewan have low oil prices and have trouble getting it to markets so they need help...

    Farmers have low grain prices and are losing markets and we get ?????

    So any farm group could have come out and changed a few words and pointed out the issues in agriculture and farmers representatives were singing with the crickets...

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      #14
      National bodies are supposed to lobby the Feds. Ideally provincial bodies would assist in defining the issues of concern for national bodies.

      Provincial Ag associations embrace agronomy & research, the odd trade mission, a bit of market promotion, & love to attend conferences on our behalf, but defining policy issues appears to be a low to no mandate of most commodity organizations. And so we have to ask, who is minding the store?

      If commodity groups are not perhaps it is APAS. They were supposed to be an umbrella group, perhaps it is them?

      Meanwhile back at the ranch, net income fell 41%, while input prices rose in 2018, and after a harvest from hell 2019 is looking no better, but rail rates went up, and global competitiveness is real & carbon tax with falling income only adds to the pain, and despite the fact that China appears to be warming up to Canada in various notable ways included removing the meat import ban, but not canola why?



      Reality bites as agristability, designed to assist income crisis, was gutted by the Conservatives, (did anyone ask for the old formula at the very least.) Did they mention over ****tails even the need for urgent paradigm change and the need to invest in diversity?

      But the real question is did Scott Moe have a list? Or even a single issue.
      Did Jason Kenney have a list? Did Ag issues make the dinner conversation even in passing?

      How well do we as an industry prepare our leadership to understand the issues in agriculture to even a fraction of how we defend oil and gas? We need oil and gas, but we need agriculture to as agriculture is the body of rural Canada, and rural Canada is a huge geography.

      And so, do your grandkids a favour, call an Ag director of any association and ask, how they define the lobby on ag policy?

      Annual meetings are coming in January, its a great place to ask this very question.

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        #15
        Interesting comments from Scott Moe and other premiers.....

        They used the term " unprecedented " in the scrum


        I expect the farm groups to do something "unprecedented" as well...

        Like change the premier's words and issue the same release about agriculture. ...

        At least 4 premiers get their support from a rural base....and zero mention of where their support comes from.......

        And here is a really stupid question....what is Andrew Scheer talking about these days?

        The premiers have to be the opposition because Scheer is in over his head. ..

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          #16
          Scheer is just shutting up because he knows now that anything he says will be used against him to get him punted as leader.

          I wasn't a big APAS supporter, I am now on the fence about them, I think with some changes, both in structure and personal they could possibly be effective. My uncle has been involved with the Farm Bureau from the county all the way up to the federal level and that is a model we need to take a good look at. They do a good job of representing all the producer groups, they have enough muscle in regards to lobbying, have good lawyers on retainers and when policy is developed they can take it to the state or federal level as a unified voice, not as a hodgepodge or cluster**** of producer organizations like we have in this country.

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            #17
            We have a big problem in Canada and it is our representatives and business who advise gov.

            They don't get primary agriculture and only care about there interests.

            Yesterday on my facebook page it became apparent how out of touch some farmers are about the amount of crop out and drying costs etc. This one guy who I now blocked attacked our farm for not finishing and not having dry grain. His comment was the carbon tax is good to pay it and shut up. He went on how he finished real early and I should have been done also. I politely at first said we had two days of sun than rain. How would he do? He would not answer then I found where he farmed and phoned some friends and yes he had 10 great days to up to two weeks with no snow or rain and did finish dry.

            Point of story guys are on committees who don't look at the big picture only see there small area and their interests.

            This is what's wrong with Ag to much me myself and I.

            Twenty producer groups are also the problem.

            The old split and conquer.

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              #18
              The Saskatchewan Ag minister is an asshole. ...

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                #19
                Actually I saw him on the news last night and thought what an out of touch fool.

                He said the guys who have cropped out should talk to crap insurance and work it out. The deer and wildlife is still available. So what hope the deer eat it all.

                When you're over your coverage on a system built to make money for the province with a 50-year average. You know things don't work.

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                  #20
                  Originally posted by SASKFARMER View Post
                  Actually I saw him on the news last night and thought what an out of touch fool.

                  He said the guys who have cropped out should talk to crap insurance and work it out. The deer and wildlife is still available. So what hope the deer eat it all.

                  When you're over your coverage on a system built to make money for the province with a 50-year average. You know things don't work.
                  Marit spent his entire farming career going to meetings as the head of SARM and other shit before that....he doesn't understand agriculture ...he understands when to show up for his per diems and a meeting...thats what he farmed for years...

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                    #21
                    They pay the value of the crop in spring usually its worthless so that’s what you’ll get from wildlife coverage NOTHING

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