Seed royalties

[HITTGrapevine]

Got thinking about the seed royalty discussion the other day.
Guys who support the idea say farmers will benefit from improved seed genetics / higher yield etc, so therefore we should be willing to invest more / pay royalties on farm saved seed.
OK, fair enough.
But what about the grain companies and railways? They will also benefit.
Higher yields and better quality crops means grain companies will be selling more bushels of wheat and making bigger profits.
Bigger harvests mean railway companies will be making more money moving Canadian grain.
So let's get grain cos and railways to invest in plant breeding too.
All in favour, say aye!

[Guest]

How dare you !!!

[bucket]

How dare you !!!

How double dare you!!!!!!!

Bringing facts to a discussion. ....

[Jay-mo]

Got thinking about the seed royalty discussion the other day.
Guys who support the idea say farmers will benefit from improved seed genetics / higher yield etc, so therefore we should be willing to invest more / pay royalties on farm saved seed.
OK, fair enough.
But what about the grain companies and railways? They will also benefit.
Higher yields and better quality crops means grain companies will be selling more bushels of wheat and making bigger profits.
Bigger harvests mean railway companies will be making more money moving Canadian grain.
So let's get grain cos and railways to invest in plant breeding too.
All in favour, say aye!

aaaaand….freight costs go up and get passed on to the dumb farmer!

[tubs]

At the end of the day it should be the public paying for this,for us farmers it will just increase cost all the way across the board. Remember when canola seed was 1 dollar per pound treated!!!!

[bucket]

aaaaand….freight costs go up and get passed on to the dumb farmer!

Rubber stamped freight increases and demurrage. ...

[bigzee]

Grow more for less ..... I meant to say for nothing!!!!!!
Take a look at canola. Bring back the first hybrid ... Hyola 401, $2.39 lb.

[Guest]

yea , were supposed to pay for R&D , then pay to buy the seed, then pay a royalty to grow it , and never own any of it ?????????????? and on top of that they can sell it to our competitors
**** it looks stupid when you see it in print
as tweety would say , just a bunch of welfare sissies that don't know how to run a business

[TASFarms]

Spg wants to set up a farmer owned seed company. As long as there ain’t a board of directors and a CEO.
If there is,the ceo will figure out a way to sell and take a big pay out. Then the gouge will begin.

[bucket]

Spg wants to set up a farmer owned seed company. As long as there ain’t a board of directors and a CEO.
If there is,the ceo will figure out a way to sell and take a big pay out. Then the gouge will begin.

The point of seed company owned by farmers is keep control of the seed and not give the varieties away or private label them to the seed cos or processors like what they did with king red....

[TOM4CWB]

Got thinking about the seed royalty discussion the other day.
Guys who support the idea say farmers will benefit from improved seed genetics / higher yield etc, so therefore we should be willing to invest more / pay royalties on farm saved seed.
OK, fair enough.
But what about the grain companies and railways? They will also benefit.
Higher yields and better quality crops means grain companies will be selling more bushels of wheat and making bigger profits.
Bigger harvests mean railway companies will be making more money moving Canadian grain.
So let's get grain cos and railways to invest in plant breeding too.
All in favour, say aye!

Ahhh... at the risk of being torn to shreds.... Who do you think owns SeCan, Canterra, FP Genetics...Value etc... if overage in freight rates... where does the money go[WGRF/Wheat/Bly commissions in W/Canada]? Farmers...through Plant Breeding....Farmer owned Seed Distribution Co's....Hmmm... stating the facts and obvious reality... will get the usual condemnation Bully comments???

How about look at who owns Secan, SPG, AWC, ABC, APG, SWG.... etc, etc, etc... Co-operatives/co's directed by farmers,,, principally from western Canada...

[SASKFARMER]

Tom its all really nice but Canadian AG is getting way to costly and we are slowly being replaced on the world stage by other countries that don't have all the parasites taking there cut.

Sorry, it's like the guns this will be over my dead body.

I'm sick of paying for shit.

[Hamloc]

According to yesterday's Wasde report from the USDA the world is awash in wheat. In this scenario how is increasing our yields a benefit? I generally find lack of rain determines my yield more than genetics. So this year as I have said before I could make more money selling my number 1 and 2 11 protein Brandon wheat into the feed market(all sold for feed) than I could selling it to an elevator for export. Why do I need to pay more for genetics to supply chicken and hog feed? One other thought the watermelons of the world keep predicting less food production due to climate change, certainly not happening in the grain complex!