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    #11
    Minister Duncan must be a climate radical! LOL

    You negative Nellies should stick to doing what you do best and take care of your own business and leave the utilities to figure out what to invest in.

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      #12
      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      Minister Duncan must be a climate radical! LOL
      Duncan and Moe just scrambling to stay out of the way of the feds destructive policy. Otherwise carbon tax will become Equalization 2.0.

      Better to invest in non economic and non sensical projects here in Sask than give it to Quebec. Just need to virtue signal for awhile until we can pry skippy out of there and the GSM takes over.

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        #13
        Show us the numbers that wind power is not economical for Sask power or shut up! Otherwise you are just full of BS.

        Sask power is also investing in natural gas and imports of hydro from Manitoba.
        Last edited by chuckChuck; Dec 11, 2019, 09:50.

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          #14
          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
          Show us the numbers that wind power is not economical for Sask power or shut up! Otherwise you are just full of BS.

          Sask power is also investing in natural gas and imports of hydro from Manitoba.
          Well the windmill out my door loses money everyday, its always shut down. Too windy shut down, too foggy shut down, too cold shutdown, too hot shutdown, geese migration shutdown, repairs shutdown. The solar panels below covered in a snowdrift or hoarfrost getting an hr of sun a day.

          UNECONOMICAL

          If it was private industry would have covered the prairies in panels decades ago.

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            #15
            Originally posted by jazz View Post
            Well the windmill out my door loses money everyday, its always shut down. Too windy shut down, too foggy shut down, too cold shutdown, too hot shutdown, geese migration shutdown, repairs shutdown. The solar panels below covered in a snowdrift or hoarfrost getting an hr of sun a day.

            UNECONOMICAL

            If it was private industry would have covered the prairies in panels decades ago.
            Oh come on, surely the other 30 days of the year it must be making money...

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              #16
              You are obviously don't know much and again provided no numbers to back up your arguments. Just more BS!

              The cost of windpower and solar power have both dropped dramatically in the last few years. So any suggestion that if they would have been economical they would have been used decades ago is just plain nonsense.

              They are getting used now because they are economical.

              From Bloomberg
              https://about.bnef.com/new-energy-outlook/

              "4. Wind and solar are now cheapest across more than two-thirds of the world. By 2030 they undercut commissioned coal and gas almost everywhere."

              From the International Energy Agency:
              https://www.iea.org/fuels-and-technologies/renewables

              "Renewables have grown rapidly in recent years, driven by sharp cost reductions for solar photovoltaics and wind power in particular. The electricity sector remains the brightest spot for renewables with the exponential growth of solar photovoltaics and wind in recent years, building on the already significant contribution of hydropower generation."

              https://www.iea.org/reports/renewables-2019
              Last edited by chuckChuck; Dec 11, 2019, 10:35.

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                #17
                That is great news Chuck. Already cheaper across 2/3s of the world. So you must have unlimited examples of how that has translated into lower costs for the end users?

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                  #18
                  I see you have backed away from your claim that they have raised prices everywhere! LOL

                  Ask Saskpower for their costs of adding new gas, wind, solar, importing hydro from Manitoba, CCS for coal and then we will discuss the results.

                  You can also ask Bloomberg and the IEA for their numbers.

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                    #19
                    Still true everywhere. Until you can show an exception. I'm not holding my breath.

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                      #20
                      chuckChuck you are living in a dream world if you think prices aren't going to increase. First you need nearly 100% backup for solar and wind installations because if you get a arctic high over the prairies and it is dark you have nothing but conventional. Your power bill is 66% infrastructure and other costs and 33% power, those cost are already there. Then you add very expensive turbines, connecting heavy underground lines, and upgraded and new transmission towers. Then you guarantee those companies a return on investment. Then you pay small producers at the same power rate for their intermittent power as for power from the grid. You have the added expense of integrating all this into the grid......you get the picture??

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