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    #25
    Wait until the natives get a million dollar repair bill for that turbine. They will be back on the SP grid in no time and probably convert it to a 5G tower.

    Wind and solar aint going to compete with natural gas, nuclear and free hydro. Sask only going after wind just to get some fed green cash. They know that other sources of energy will cannibalize wind and solar just like nat gas did to my geothermal boondoggle.

    Good thing chuck is just some ignorant internet troll. There are guys like him who are govt advisors like that fool Butts.
    Last edited by jazz; Dec 11, 2019, 12:50.

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      #26
      again , WHY IN **** DOESNT WIND AND SOLAR HAVE TO SHOW CLEAN UP COSTS for spent solar panels and decommisioned wind towers, like nuclear ??????????? WHY THE FREE RIDE ??????????????

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        #27
        https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/small-biz/productline/power-generation/how-india-in-a-short-period-of-time-has-become-the-cheapest-producer-of-solar-power/articleshow/70325301.cms?from=mdr

        How India in a short period of time has become the cheapest producer of solar power

        India’s solar story through its compelling business case is maximizing the falling renewable technology costs as the key to future energy decarbonisation. The country has realised that it is cheaper to build and operate solar farms than to run existing coal-fired power plants. Renewable energy also has significant environment benefits making it the single biggest driver to help us meet our carbon emission reduction targets in our fight against climate change. With India being a growing economy, ..
        Last edited by chuckChuck; Dec 11, 2019, 13:03.

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          #28
          Green boondoggles are everywhere. How will the price go down when the projects go over budget by 200% and there is no consumer who can afford the bills.

          Now you know why the Premier of NF was in grovelling at skippys feet. Another green bailout on its way.

          https://outline.com/9Sn9qw Muskrat Falls fiasco a case study in risks and follies that lurk within green energy


          The year 2020 will contain at least one totally predictable event: The beginning of the national financial unravelling of Muskrat Falls, one of the greatest energy follies in the history of the country.
          The publicly announced cost figure for Newfoundland and Labrador’s Muskrat Falls green hydropower mega boondoggle is now $12.7 billion, double the original project estimate of $6.2 billion. The good news is that Nalcor, the provincial Crown corporation behind the project, says it is on track to begin delivering power — four years behind schedule — through the 1,100-kilometre power line from northern Labrador to Newfoundland in early 2020. The bad news is that there is no real market for the electricity, which means that Newfoundland taxpayers and electricity consumers are staring into a $12.7-billion financial crisis.
          Last edited by jazz; Dec 11, 2019, 13:05.

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            #29
            https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/15/business/china-solar-electricity-scli-intl/index.html

            Solar power is now cheaper than the grid in hundreds of Chinese cities

            London (CNN Business)Solar energy in hundreds of Chinese cities is now cheaper than electricity supplied by the national grid, and it can even compete with coal-fired power in 75 of them, a new study has found.
            Some 344 Chinese cities were found to have solar systems producing energy at lower prices than the grid, without any subsidies, according to the research published in the journal Nature Energy. That could encourage further investment in renewable energy, according to the authors.
            China has made huge progress in developing solar projects and pledged to invest 2.5 trillion yuan ($367 billion) in renewable power generation — solar, wind, hydro and nuclear — from 2017-2020.

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              #30
              Originally posted by caseih View Post
              Now , now , musnt enter facts into a fairy tale story
              They probably have their place but it sure as **** isnt in this deep freeze
              For guys like mallee it might work great
              Might being the key word. The blackouts, the disastrously higher energy prices, the lawsuits all indicate that it isn't working in Australia either.
              Glad I chose not to hold my breath while Chuck continues to search in vain for any place enjoying cheaper energy thanks to wind and solar

              Speaking of which, why would they turn the thermostat down to conserve energy, if the energy is free from the sun? Where is the economic or environmental benefit to that?

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                #31
                Originally posted by jazz View Post
                Green boondoggles are everywhere. How will the price go down when the projects go over budget by 200% and there is no consumer who can afford the bills.

                Now you know why the Premier of NF was in grovelling at skippys feet. Another green bailout its way.

                https://outline.com/9Sn9qw Muskrat Falls fiasco a case study in risks and follies that lurk within green energy


                The year 2020 will contain at least one totally predictable event: The beginning of the national financial unravelling of Muskrat Falls, one of the greatest energy follies in the history of the country.
                The publicly announced cost figure for Newfoundland and Labrador’s Muskrat Falls green hydropower mega boondoggle is now $12.7 billion, double the original project estimate of $6.2 billion. The good news is that Nalcor, the provincial Crown corporation behind the project, says it is on track to begin delivering power — four years behind schedule — through the 1,100-kilometre power line from northern Labrador to Newfoundland in early 2020. The bad news is that there is no real market for the electricity, which means that Newfoundland taxpayers and electricity consumers are staring into a $12.7-billion financial crisis.
                That hydro project was put in place by the Conservatives. And we have been building hydro projects for decades.

                Muskrat Falls: A story of unchecked oilmen and their boondoggle hydro project

                https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/muskrat-boondoggle-reasons-1.5088786 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/muskrat-boondoggle-reasons-1.5088786

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                  #32
                  "Speaking of which, why would they turn the thermostat down to conserve energy, if the energy is free from the sun? Where is the economic or environmental benefit to that?"

                  A5 we don't even know what they are using for a heat source or whether they turned the heat down! LOL

                  In a net zero house you only need small mounts of energy for heating.

                  https://www.landmarkhomes.ca/net-zero

                  Landmark homes is already building net zero homes in Calgary and Edmonton.

                  What is Net Zero?

                  A Landmark Net Zero Home uses zero gigajoules of energy over the course of a year. How does it work? We add a package of boosted energy-efficient features into each home, including an ultra-efficient heating and cooling system, extra insulation, double coated triple-pane windows, and superior ventilation. We then cover the roof with solar panels, making this home a powerhouse. The result is a super-efficient and airtight home, an exceptional living experience and net zero energy bills for you.

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                    #33
                    Chuck, you should depend on solar and wind -SOLELY

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                      #34
                      Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                      Chuck, you should depend on solar and wind -SOLELY
                      You should run your farm on coal - SOLELY

                      Time to dust off the steam engine and threshing machine!
                      Last edited by chuckChuck; Dec 11, 2019, 14:17.

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                        #35
                        Originally posted by caseih View Post
                        again , WHY IN **** DOESNT WIND AND SOLAR HAVE TO SHOW CLEAN UP COSTS for spent solar panels and decommisioned wind towers, like nuclear ??????????? WHY THE FREE RIDE ??????????????
                        To be fair, this is an issue on both sides of the non-renewable vs renewable debate.

                        There are many orphan wells in Alberta, with abandonment and reclamation work unfunded. I imagine much the same in other provinces.

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                          #36
                          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                          "Speaking of which, why would they turn the thermostat down to conserve energy, if the energy is free from the sun? Where is the economic or environmental benefit to that?"

                          A5 we don't even know what they are using for a heat source or whether they turned the heat down! LOL
                          I certainly don't know, but in the previous post, you suggested that they had turned the heat down. Just trying to understand the logic behind the suggestion, or the activity itself.

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