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    #21
    Why not charge the EV with a bio diesel gen set that could also run everything else on the farm ?
    Run it off pure canola oil . You can buy small extractors from Europe to make the bio diesel.
    Make it a closed loop system .
    Would be far more reliable than a very expensive solar / battery set up and by far more useful for all the real power needed on a farm.


    Chuck the only way EV and battery storage will ever be affordable will be off the back of carbon tax when it gets to $200/tn.
    I am sure that’s what end game your seeing but have not admitted it yet .
    But by then most of us will be out of farming, carbon tax at that level will decimate every farm in Canada , unless we farm like the Amish.

    Also true regenerative farming will only work if livestock are involved. Well the very same radical groups calling for an end to fossil fuels want an end to all livestock producers. So that’s a lose lose situation.

    It is strange how the push is for a cleaner environment by reducing fossil fuels is rampant but zero is mentioned about the massive strip mining being done to get rare earth minerals needed for batteries and solar panels that have a relatively short life span. And will be a huge cost for proper disposal and or recycling.
    Those big mines are all being operated by huge fossil fuel burning machines too boot lol

    Net effect of climate change will be very minuscule , even if fossil fuels are drastically reduced.

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      #22
      Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
      Why not charge the EV with a bio diesel gen set that could also run everything else on the farm ?
      Run it off pure canola oil . You can buy small extractors from Europe to make the bio diesel.
      Make it a closed loop system .
      Would be far more reliable than a very expensive solar / battery set up and by far more useful for all the real power needed on a farm.
      The massive transmission lines needed to bring hydro to where people live will never be allowed. They are the next green boondoggle to be blocked. Same as solar. Sure there will be like 5% of the NA population lives somewhere sunny enough to charge their car overnight using rooftop solar. But the rest will still be relying on that grid which will still need to be back by a liquid fuel or nuclear option, period.

      The utilities are blocking small scale generation onto their grids. They don't want a bunch of mom and pops generating a few kw here and there. Makes managing the system near impossible. The have high interconnection costs and high standard on the quality of the power. That's the same reason EVs are made to plug in but cant reverse back to the grid. They don't want that power. An EV charged with a biodiesel type fuel and then excess dumped back to the grid could put power (and oil) companies out of business.
      Last edited by jazz; Dec 16, 2019, 09:53.

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        #23
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        You better tell all the car makers to cancel their EV plans!
        It's funny, how often you use this line as an argument, because as a card carrying member of the party, you no doubt believe that this is how it should be done. That private businesses need to be told what to do. Business, research, and individual preferences all need to be directed by decree in order to achieve the goals of the 5 year plan.

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          #24
          Originally posted by GDR View Post
          That actually would make sense for all road tax. But I'd bet it becomes all automated when your car reports on it's own.
          And which rode it drove down, and how fast, and how many people, and were they wearing seatbelts, and....

          What do you mean "When it happens" LOLOLOLOL

          But its really only been happening since onStar and Sirius XM. Only since 1996. Anyone remember the track your spouse for 12 cents a day program called Family Link?

          I'm so annoying spoiling everything.

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            #25
            Exactly the same as the wind farm projects that happened over the last decade, not economical on their own without the subsidies.

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              #26
              Why dont they build an EV out of a solar panel with a wind charger on board and charges off the drive train as well ?
              It would take extra power for fan resistance and to drive charging system , but ........ ?

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                #27
                I want one of those Tesla Trucks.

                Not it’s more ugly than my new Denali.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by caseih View Post
                  Why dont they build an EV out of a solar panel with a wind charger on board and charges off the drive train as well ?
                  It would take extra power for fan resistance and to drive charging system , but ........ ?
                  Because you would need 330 full size panels, about 6000 sq ft to charge the 85 kwh pack while driving

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                    #29
                    so not like on the sci fi movies then ?
                    but seriously , does an EV charge at all while driving , or could they ? i'm not really upon this stuff at all?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by tweety View Post
                      Because you would need 330 full size panels, about 6000 sq ft to charge the 85 kwh pack while driving
                      lots of resistance, then ,lol

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