It was all a lie

[jazz]

Here is a map of all ag regions in the world, light green. This new map shows that there are 20% more acres under crop cultivation than previously estimated. So much for having to increase production to feed more people, the lands were already being cropped well before the population increase comes. That FAO estimate is probably wildly off just like everything that comes out of these global bodies. More likely propaganda so we overproduce and keep prices low.



https://www.producer.com/2017/11/worlds-farmland-total-bigger-expected/ World’s farmland total bigger than expected

There will be no ag revolution, at least not here. But FSU is waiting to eat our lunch. 100M abandoned acres that could be brought back into production, as much as all farmland in western Canada, and eyeing our Canola markets. We could be majorly fcked.

https://www.producer.com/2019/12/russia-could-become-major-canola-competitor/ Russia could become major canola competitor

****seed is no longer a niche crop in Russia but it is still early days. The industry is looking at Western Canada for guidance and advice because growing conditions are similar in the two countries.
“Your experience is very positive for us to increase the importance of canola in Russia because we’re still in the beginning,” said Tuchin.
He noted that the main spring ****seed area, known as the Siberian ****seed belt, stretches from the Ural mountains to the Altai mountains. It covers a distance equal to that of Winnipeg to Edmonton.
Russia has an estimated 100 million acres of abandoned farmland from the Soviet era that could be brought back into crop production.
“We have huge potential to cultivate abandoned lands,” he said.

[bucket]

Yup and we sat back and handed the market to them on a silver platter. ...

Europe's flax needs are met by Khakistan. ...

250 million given to Asian infrastructure bank to help the Russians meet the demand...while farmers here have issues...

Billions wasted on the grow more make less advocacy..

And even worse is no carbon tax in the FSU and major infrastructure improvements....

[TSIPP]

Whenever I see maps like that I always think Australia must be a hard place to make a living.

[tweety]

Whenever I see maps like that I always think Australia must be a hard place to make a living.

And Canada, look at that little speck of green vs country size. It's really just a big rock with some crappy dirt in one little spot.

[SASKFARMER]

Tweety is correct we are just a big rock with a little bit of crappy dirt.

The Canadian Canola council should be ****ing turfed they are the real problem with AG in Canada.

For one minute does any Canadian farmer think Russia will follow the rules and let BAYER or MONSANTO OR BASF come in and dictate seed costs etc. Or will they get out the seed and plant it and spray it with spray from China and then sell into china on the new road and railway.

We are getting handed our lunch with all the bullshit costs in Canada.

God Wake the **** up farmers.

[tweety]

Just did the math, Canada has 3,800,000 million square miles, 156,000 square miles are arable. About 4.5%. Sask has about half the arable land.

[Taiga]

Yep, not much of Canada is Ag according to that map, quite striking.

[ajl]

Need a seed tax in Russia to spur investment. The only reason that idea gets floated in canuckistan is that everyone know canuckistani's are the only one who would take it seriously. Rest of the world, the idea would be met with laughter. There is still bush being cleared around here so new farmland being made every day. If the central banks are out of firepower and government can no longer print, then look our below for canuckistan farmland values.

[jazz]

Yep, not much of Canada is Ag according to that map, quite striking.

Not much of Canada is habitable. Its all mountains, shield, rock, forest and tundra. Lucky we have an ag industry at all. Russia has a lot more ag land and its closer to water and high population centers.

It remains to be seen if Russia has the stomach for high input ag. Says their canola yields are under 30 bu and that's probably below break even for them.

That being said, we need to be wary too about following the same paradigm because one of these countries could steal our markets in a flash. Especially the northern grain belt where canola and wheat are the only options.

[bucket]

Not much of Canada is habitable. Its all mountains, shield, rock, forest and tundra. Lucky we have an ag industry at all. Russia has a lot more ag land and its closer to water and high population centers.

It remains to be seen if Russia has the stomach for high input ag. Says their canola yields are under 30 bu and that's probably below break even for them.

That being said, we need to be wary too about following the same paradigm because one of these countries could steal our markets in a flash. Especially the northern grain belt where canola and wheat are the only options.

They already have....

With all the other production issues in the world we shouldn't be receiving feed wheat prices for good quality...

[LWeber]

Just did the math, Canada has 3,800,000 million square miles, 156,000 square miles are arable. About 4.5%. Sask has about half the arable land.

About 7% of the total land area of Canada is used for agriculture, more than two-thirds of which is arable land. Statistics Canada’s agricultural ecumene identifies the areas of the country where agricultural activity is located

Farm area in Canada declined (-6%) from 68.7 million hectares in 1971 to 64.8 million hectares in 2011 . The loss of 3.9 million hectares of farm area is equal to an area approximately the size of Vancouver Island in British Columbia. The number of farms in Canada, meanwhile, dropped 44% from 366,110 farms to 205,730 farms. As a result, the average farm has increased in size from 188 hectares to 315 hectares.

Source: STATSCAN

[ajl]

Statscan data should be taken with a grain of salt as it is notoriously inaccurate although most of the bush clearing has occurred since 2011 in response to high land prices. I see ads on Kijiji regularly for clearing services. Apparently you can clear bush and crop within a couple years now. The season may be too short for some of this land in the peace country though. If we could only figure out what a hectare is?

[fjlip]

Hectare is a term that should be BANNED in North America. There are NONE on our farm. We measured WRONG 150 years ago!

[Marusko]

It remains to be seen if Russia has the stomach for high input ag. Says their canola yields are under 30 bu and that's probably below break even for them.

That being said, we need to be wary too about following the same paradigm because one of these countries could steal our markets in a flash. Especially the northern grain belt where canola and wheat are the only options.

yeilds are under 30 probably because they haven't been putting in the inputs. it says right in the article that they're using saved seed and not hybrids. On twitter I follow a British guy who tours around in the black sea region, there's a lot of modern knowledge they're missing. The whole communism thing really set them back, but they're catching up.