Wondering about mustard again.

[Sheepwheat]

Well, I grew yellow a few years back. A few things went wrong. It grew five feet tall, fell over, looked like a 50 bushel canola crop and yielded less than 20. I was at a mustard meeting in Saskatoon and their plots were thigh high post blooming, and they said it would yield 20 when I asked. I told them mine was thigh high at bolting time, shoulder high at full bloom. They could not believe it and said I should get 40. Had it priced for twenty five bucks, so I was all excited!

Then it had too many cleavers to be saleable. I’m done with yellow. Lol

Wondering about trying oriental or brown. Apparently they can yield much better. No volunteer canola issues anymore, haven’t grown it for four years now. Cleavers are also better under control.

In a wet area like mine, what is the yield potential? Like is 30 possible? Straight cuttable? Stand ok? It will be going on summerfallow, with medium inputs.

Just an idea I’m toying with.

[bucket]

I am taking hobby farmer tone here...

Don't do it....there is no money in it....


Get it?

[jazz]

In a wet area like mine, what is the yield potential? Like is 30 possible? Straight cuttable? Stand ok? It will be going on summerfallow, with medium inputs.

What are your other crops?

People who tried mustard around here back 30 yrs ago are still fighting volunteers that morphed into GR2 resistant.

[oldjim]

I grew mustard back in the '90s when a local elevator was buying it. A neighbour of mine had been growing it and having good luck, this was before canola took hold around here. He told me he tried all three types of mustard and had the poorest results with yellow mustard. I grew Cutlass oriental, never had big yields, 20-25 mostly, but it was a cash alternative back in the wheat board days. Mine was always grown on summerfallow. Wouldn't mind trying it again.

[Sheepwheat]

What are your other crops?

People who tried mustard around here back 30 yrs ago are still fighting volunteers that morphed into GR2 resistant.

Other crops are wheat, oats, canary, barley, sometimes flax, close to saying goodbye to flax, faba bean, alfalfa in rotation now too.

[dave4441]

Other crops are wheat, oats, canary, barley, sometimes flax, close to saying goodbye to flax, faba bean, alfalfa in rotation now too.

Try and get some hybrid brown mustard. Likely will react well with your moisture and yield potential.

Dave

[bucket]

Try and get some hybrid brown mustard. Likely will react well with your moisture and yield potential.

Dave

And benefit the seed guys...

Just buy common seed and put money into growing it.....

Don't fall for the canola thing with better yields....your price will go down....

Dave4441's processing fees don't go down.......

Grow more make less...

40 bpa at 5 bucks makes more money that 50 bpa at 4 bucks....it's just math.....

[HappyFarmer]

And benefit the seed guys...

Just buy common seed and put money into growing it.....

Don't fall for the canola thing with better yields....your price will go down....

Dave4441's processing fees don't go down.......

Grow more make less...

40 bpa at 5 bucks makes more money that 50 bpa at 4 bucks....it's just math.....

40 cent new crop bids out there.

[Sheepwheat]

Try and get some hybrid brown mustard. Likely will react well with your moisture and yield potential.

Dave

Definitely not going to use hybrid. It is no longer how I farm, and I ain’t sorry.

[dave4441]

Definitely not going to use hybrid. It is no longer how I farm, and I ain’t sorry.

We had some side by side and the results even on emergence in dry conditions were radically different. I think the hybrid is the way to go. I don't believe seed costs are that much higher either but i don't know for sure.

[bucket]

We had some side by side and the results even on emergence in dry conditions were radically different. I think the hybrid is the way to go. I don't believe seed costs are that much higher either but i don't know for sure.

That's the way canola started too....it wasn't that much more but once they got market share and rid of older varieties ...what happened...

Keep the older varieties ...just in case....

Guys like Dave4441 promote higher seed costs....it's good for him....

Over produce mustard until it's worthless....dave's fees don't change. ....

[Sheepwheat]

We had some side by side and the results even on emergence in dry conditions were radically different. I think the hybrid is the way to go. I don't believe seed costs are that much higher either but i don't know for sure.

I will certainly cost it out. But we need to keep specialty crops, well, special imho. Overproducing rye doesn’t help prices much. I also would like to retain my own seed.

Again, maybe costing is closer than I think, I get yer point. But I also get buckets point, and my gut worries a bit about it all.