Wondering about mustard again.

[bucket]

We had some side by side and the results even on emergence in dry conditions were radically different. I think the hybrid is the way to go. I don't believe seed costs are that much higher either but i don't know for sure.

That's the way canola started too....it wasn't that much more but once they got market share and rid of older varieties ...what happened...

Keep the older varieties ...just in case....

Guys like Dave4441 promote higher seed costs....it's good for him....

Over produce mustard until it's worthless....dave's fees don't change. ....

[Sheepwheat]

We had some side by side and the results even on emergence in dry conditions were radically different. I think the hybrid is the way to go. I don't believe seed costs are that much higher either but i don't know for sure.

I will certainly cost it out. But we need to keep specialty crops, well, special imho. Overproducing rye doesn’t help prices much. I also would like to retain my own seed.

Again, maybe costing is closer than I think, I get yer point. But I also get buckets point, and my gut worries a bit about it all.

[bucket]

I will certainly cost it out. But we need to keep specialty crops, well, special imho. Overproducing rye doesn’t help prices much. I also would like to retain my own seed.

Again, maybe costing is closer than I think, I get yer point. But I also get buckets point, and my gut worries a bit about it all.

Trust bucket....I am looking out for farmers in general....seed costs don't guarantee more money....I have seen mustard drop right off with over production....

Dave4441 is looking out for dave4441....


Facts....

[dave4441]

Trust bucket....I am looking out for farmers in general....seed costs don't guarantee more money....I have seen mustard drop right off with over production....

Dave4441 is looking out for dave4441....


Facts....

Trust Bucket? LOL, you couldn't hit the ocean from the beach.

Reality is that we are competing with Russia/Kzackstan and we better have the ability to be more competitive. They are going to eat our lunch in all the specialty crops. Hybrid seed use reduces the potential for GMO contamination for exports into europe. We will need to be competitive agronomically on output. Sure, in a perfect world we could lower production of everything and increase our prices but other countries will just take advantage of this. As a trader and farmer the highest margin for both farmer and exporter is when prices are thru the roof. Margins do change actually but if your world view is Moose Jaw to Swift Current you won't have any understanding of the real picture in these crops.

Incidentally, i have no involvement in the seed industry nor do I trade mustard. I use common seed all the time on our farm. I keep costs as low as possible, in fact i would put my farm costs/ac up against anyone in my region. But in a high moisture environment like Meath Park (which i think Sheepwheat is from), this variety could be really interesting. If I offer a suggestion because i think it would help him and then get jumped all over by someone who obviously knows f--k all and hides behind a fake name to top it off. An example of birthright being a horrible succession plan for any business.

Most exporters will not do a brown mustard contract without the grower using certified seed because of the tight tolerance in export specs to europe. Oriental less important. And certified brown seed is not expensive. And i have no idea what the cost of hybrid seed is and i have no idea if any is even available as i think the uptake has been fast this fall.

[bucket]

Pretty thenthitive guy aren't you....


And I know some things about mustard....but it sounds like you have better advice....

[dave4441]

Pretty thenthitive guy aren't you....


And I know some things about mustard....but it sounds like you have better advice....

Well we wouldn't know that because all you do is whine.

[bucket]

Well we wouldn't know that because all you do is whine.

Only thing that matters is who isn't ****ing a farmer on dockage and payment and grade....sometimes getting paid is harder than growing it....

[dave4441]

Only thing that matters is who isn't ****ing a farmer on dockage and payment and grade....sometimes getting paid is harder than growing it....

Which is completely irrelevanat to the thread. This is what makes this site useless and it never used to be that way. Every thread (this one was about agronomy of mustard) has to be turned into a shit show about how everyone is ****ing the farmer or how the government isn't doing their job. I rarely even think about what the govt is doing in my day to day business. Nothing of any importance gets learned or added here because of the nonstop whinefest.

[bucket]

Which is completely irrelevanat to the thread. This is what makes this site useless and it never used to be that way. Every thread (this one was about agronomy of mustard) has to be turned into a shit show about how everyone is ****ing the farmer or how the government isn't doing their job. I rarely even think about what the govt is doing in my day to day business. Nothing of any importance gets learned or added here because of the nonstop whinefest.

So you would grow mustard to deal with unscrupulous buyers....or be light on unload or higher dockage....happens every day...sorry for looking at the big picture. ...

[dave4441]

So you would grow mustard to deal with unscrupulous buyers....or be light on unload or higher dockage....happens every day...sorry for looking at the big picture. ...

You have problems with all buyers though. I know lots of mustard growers that don't have these problems. A friend grows 5000+ ac of mustard a year and I have not once heard him complain about the buyers. But he is realistic about what he grew. Might be a starting point.