Sask Energy Users , check your bills, WESTERN PRODUCER ,HERE IS A STORY FOR YOU

[chuckChuck]

Almost all the farm groups have asked for a rebate or exemption for natural gas or propane used for grain drying. Which seems a reasonable request considering the year.

But the Sask party have never mentioned a specific rebate request. The NDP asked them to work together to request a rebate but they said no! Too busy playing politics, was the answer!

The carbon tax on my Oct/ Nov bill is is about 40% on the actual gas consumption or about 13.5% of the total bill. A whopping $25.21! I used a small amount for drying. The rest was normal heating and household use. There is no carbon tax on the gas delivery charge or the basic monthly charge.

This is certainly putting pressure on my farm financial picture! The banks are calling every day and I am thinking of calling Ritchie Brothers and moving to Florida to play golf with SF!

[tweety]

Why shouldn't a farmer pay carbon tax on dryer propane or natural gas?

If farms grew 25% of the grain they do now, the price would be way up, far less carbon from fertilizers, no fungicide required, 1/4 the transportation cost and you could cut your drying cost by 75%.

And you'd make more money in the end with far less work and risk and much easier on the environment.

But hells no, next year you're going to try and put 250 lbs on N on instead of 200, 3 trips with fungicide instead of 2, 2 trips with hormone regulators, and months beside the dryer all the while complaining about the price. Now you're a good farmer.

[mcfarms]

Why shouldn't a farmer pay carbon tax on dryer propane or natural gas?

If farms grew 25% of the grain they do now, the price would be way up, far less carbon from fertilizers, no fungicide required, 1/4 the transportation cost and you could cut your drying cost by 75%.

And you'd make more money in the end with far less work and risk and much easier on the environment.

But hells no, next year you're going to try and put 250 lbs on N on instead of 200, 3 trips with fungicide instead of 2, 2 trips with hormone regulators, and months beside the dryer all the while complaining about the price. Now you're a good farmer.

Go for it, lead by example.

[bucket]

Tweety

Yes but this is an unusual year for grain drying ...many many tonnes of tough grain....the smart thing would have been to have left it in the feld for the spring and let it dry naturally...

There are some wrecks coming for sure....in bins...No gold star or insurance for that mess.


The problem with buying a dryer is that you are probably committed to using it on a regular basis ...Looks like rain and the wheat is testing 17 ...its a go...or to save a grade or 2 on durum maybe instead of spraying you make the decision to dry it...


All things considered I won't argue everything you have said...but its a discussion that needs more thought...

[tweety]

Go for it, lead by example.

You assume we aren't already doing a large part of it? Math isn't hard for you mcFarms, this i know.

Maximizing is the worst word to have ever hit agriculture

[bucket]

Grow more ....make less...

I can make more money at 40 bpa at 5 bucks than 50 bpa at 4 bucks....


Some say I am wrong. ...but had this harvest been normal ....canola would probably be 8 bucks and guys would be bitter...

Mother nature did what farmers refuse to..
.

[tweety]

Grow more ....make less...

I can make more money at 40 bpa at 5 bucks than 50 bpa at 4 bucks....


Some say I am wrong. ...but had this harvest been normal ....canola would probably be 8 bucks and guys would be bitter...

Mother nature did what farmers refuse to..
.

Amen sister!

[SASKFARMER]

But my 75 wheat and 60 canola make money in the black soil zone. Why grow it in the south? I don’t grow durum or lentils.

Same stupid argument.

We all did our part to save money and make our homes energy efficient etc.

Trudeau is insane and just wants money and feel good that’s all this is.

Tax the shit out of Canadians.

[parsley]

Farmers working with oil companies could utilize the gas presently burned off. (What would the enviro penalty be that they are paying)?

A grid to capture the gas (farmers and companies build it together) to heat farmsteads benefitting both oil Co and farmers seems plausible, does it not?

Any comments if possiblily is being done, rejected, or ignored?

[Hamloc]

Almost all the farm groups have asked for a rebate or exemption for natural gas or propane used for grain drying. Which seems a reasonable request considering the year.

But the Sask party have never mentioned a specific rebate request. The NDP asked them to work together to request a rebate but they said no! Too busy playing politics, was the answer!

The carbon tax on my Oct/ Nov bill is is about 40% on the actual gas consumption or about 13.5% of the total bill. A whopping $25.21! I used a small amount for drying. The rest was normal heating and household use. There is no carbon tax on the gas delivery charge or the basic monthly charge.

This is certainly putting pressure on my farm financial picture! The banks are calling every day and I am thinking of calling Ritchie Brothers and moving to Florida to play golf with SF!

Chuck I posted in the Cabon tax percentage thread about how unevenly the carbon is applied across Canada, if it is such a climate emergency why is it ok if residents in some provinces pay a much lower carbon tax?

[wd9]

The most insane part is there is no transparency to how the money is being spent - or how it is reducing anything at all.

[fjlip]

Same here CO2 TAX is 39% of gas cost...the advocates of such insanity should be in JAIL!

[Herc]

The most insane part is there is no transparency to how the money is being spent - or how it is reducing anything at all.

Exactly. I thought everything went back to the province other than the apparent GST scam. Yet Trudeau said our rebates will be less next year even with an increase to $30/tonne. Factor in the harvest from hell that injected a pile more revenue to Ottawa due to drying grain.

Where is the money ending up??

[blackpowder]

JT has a long vision. To place us for the next century. Not to get stuck in the present. His words.
Tells you something about who's voting for him. Goofy carbon tax to general revenue, OK. But an increase in GST of 1 or 2%? No no, that won't sell.
Haha.
Perhaps he can get any dumber??
Maybe all the provinces can get the same deal as QC.

[MBgrower]

When trudope gets his majority back next election (and he will), gst is going up 2 points.