Sask Energy Users , check your bills, WESTERN PRODUCER ,HERE IS A STORY FOR YOU

[Crestliner]

Yah August 5th I made a post that it was $0.04 per cubic meter and gas cost was about $0.10 per cubic meters and delivery was $0.10 per cubic meter....this is old news and why should it surprise anyone.....farmers are paying a huge part of this useless tax that is a tax and we are good stewards of the environment. Propane is 6.5 cents per lbs.

The Western Producer is a useless sad paper....what would a story do in that? Nothing new here “Farmers getting screwed by Feds” and have no voice....just keep paying.

[furrowtickler]

The intent was to lower our fossil fuel use, correct? How am I supposed to tell y kids we are only setting the thermostat to 12?

Exactly, what a joke .
Tax is into poverty ....... that’s where this will lead and what they want . Has nothing to do with lowering fossil fuel use . It’s a wealth distribution tax , pure and simple. Sad part is there is nothing that can be done to lower gas use in most homes and they know it .

[bucket]

Quit complaining, the rebate checks are in the mail, or at least the credit will be applied when you file your tax return!

My sarcasm button is stuck on max.

Gas consumption 5.33 all in
Carbon tax 2.09 all in ....Gst was 10 cents on the carbon tax...

Gas is the most efficient way to heat my home ...I couldn't afford electric heat....

I have to heat my home....

Our 120 year old home is Tyvak wrapped now with 2 inches of board insulation under the siding....all new windows in the last 10 years ...

Basement is spray foamed .....What else can a guy do to reduce the bill...

[tweety]

See, the tax is working. You're talking about energy used and the resulting release of carbon.

[Guest]

like ****, were talking about energy efficiency things we did to our homes years ago

[chuckChuck]

Almost all the farm groups have asked for a rebate or exemption for natural gas or propane used for grain drying. Which seems a reasonable request considering the year.

But the Sask party have never mentioned a specific rebate request. The NDP asked them to work together to request a rebate but they said no! Too busy playing politics, was the answer!

The carbon tax on my Oct/ Nov bill is is about 40% on the actual gas consumption or about 13.5% of the total bill. A whopping $25.21! I used a small amount for drying. The rest was normal heating and household use. There is no carbon tax on the gas delivery charge or the basic monthly charge.

This is certainly putting pressure on my farm financial picture! The banks are calling every day and I am thinking of calling Ritchie Brothers and moving to Florida to play golf with SF!

[tweety]

Why shouldn't a farmer pay carbon tax on dryer propane or natural gas?

If farms grew 25% of the grain they do now, the price would be way up, far less carbon from fertilizers, no fungicide required, 1/4 the transportation cost and you could cut your drying cost by 75%.

And you'd make more money in the end with far less work and risk and much easier on the environment.

But hells no, next year you're going to try and put 250 lbs on N on instead of 200, 3 trips with fungicide instead of 2, 2 trips with hormone regulators, and months beside the dryer all the while complaining about the price. Now you're a good farmer.

[mcfarms]

Why shouldn't a farmer pay carbon tax on dryer propane or natural gas?

If farms grew 25% of the grain they do now, the price would be way up, far less carbon from fertilizers, no fungicide required, 1/4 the transportation cost and you could cut your drying cost by 75%.

And you'd make more money in the end with far less work and risk and much easier on the environment.

But hells no, next year you're going to try and put 250 lbs on N on instead of 200, 3 trips with fungicide instead of 2, 2 trips with hormone regulators, and months beside the dryer all the while complaining about the price. Now you're a good farmer.

Go for it, lead by example.

[bucket]

Tweety

Yes but this is an unusual year for grain drying ...many many tonnes of tough grain....the smart thing would have been to have left it in the feld for the spring and let it dry naturally...

There are some wrecks coming for sure....in bins...No gold star or insurance for that mess.


The problem with buying a dryer is that you are probably committed to using it on a regular basis ...Looks like rain and the wheat is testing 17 ...its a go...or to save a grade or 2 on durum maybe instead of spraying you make the decision to dry it...


All things considered I won't argue everything you have said...but its a discussion that needs more thought...

[tweety]

Go for it, lead by example.

You assume we aren't already doing a large part of it? Math isn't hard for you mcFarms, this i know.

Maximizing is the worst word to have ever hit agriculture