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    #31
    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Easy fix. Find a tax that can be applied to EVs to pay for their share the road system.

    We should be making users pay for the road system rather than a subsidized public road system that encourages heavy trucking on roads instead of using the rail system to move heavy freight long distances.

    Maybe we should make the rail system public so that we can have competition on rails instead of the duopoly we have now?

    It would be a good investment in infrastructure to reduce carbon emissions. Why public roads and a private rail system which provides poor service?
    I will agree with your logic above .....but the cost to use the road ..IMHO...shouldn't be measured by volts or liters used....but that is the way it's done ....you consume more between Regina and Calgary and you pay more road tax....


    Shouldn't matter if it's a half ton or EV the road tax should be the same....I am talking commuter traffic....not heavy hauls....

    I agree with more on rail which makes me wonder why another elevator in swift current by G3 will help the road system?

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      #32
      Originally posted by TSIPP View Post
      Maleefarmer, I’m on the other side of the fence the new local wind turbines are supposed to provide
      4.2 megawatts or a little more than 5600 horsepower at a cost of 3.5 cents a kilowatt. Each turbine costs a little more than 6 million.

      As far as I know solars costing close to 10 cents a kilowatt and most of Canada doesn’t get enough sunshine for the panels for break even without a government subsidize.
      What would be the cost comparison if you didn't compare it to unsustainable and limited supply fuel you just pulled out of the ground and burnt ?

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        #33
        Originally posted by tweety View Post
        What would be the cost comparison if you didn't compare it to unsustainable and limited supply fuel you just pulled out of the ground and burnt ?
        Exactly, neither option is BOTH sustainable for long periods, AND able to provide reliable power on its own. We need to be pursuing other options, instead of racing to use( or flare off) all of our existing known fossil fuels as fast as possible, or enriching crony capitalist renewable energy oligarchs.

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          #34
          Originally posted by tweety View Post
          What would be the cost comparison if you didn't compare it to unsustainable and limited supply fuel you just pulled out of the ground and burnt ?
          I should probably answer that question after Christmas, I do have 7 engineers in my immediate family and will see most of them on Wednesday.

          After some thought and googling I’ve come to the conclusion that a biomass electricity plant is pretty expensive your looking at $3500 for every KW for building it and cost is around 12 cents for every KW produced. The fuel is probably less than half the price of diesel if the feed source is close enough.
          Eg. straw, wood, grains, nut shells

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            #35
            I’m guessing one of the biggest costs running a biomass plant is wages but we all have to work somewhere.

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              #36
              Originally posted by TSIPP View Post
              I’m guessing one of the biggest costs running a biomass plant is wages but we all have to work somewhere.
              I'm suspecting the biggest cost of a biomass plant is the fossil fuels that get burnt harvesting and hauling the biomass to the plant, then processing it into a form that can be fed to the plant.

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                #37
                Originally posted by malleefarmer View Post
                Interesting with all the govt subsidies and help , taxpayers and ECB are gonna bail them out. Investors apparently left with nothing.

                I’m becoming pro solar but not pro wind power but both have to stand alone sometime soon


                https://www.reuters.com/article/us-senvion-m-a-siemens-gamesa-r-idUSKBN1W10KR https://www.reuters.com/article/us-senvion-m-a-siemens-gamesa-r-idUSKBN1W10KR
                Trump and mallee cut from the same cloth

                https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/23/trump-bizarre-tirade-windmills

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