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    #13
    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    I don't hate fossil fuels I use them every day. There are few choices to fossil fuels except to reduce consumption and wait for affordable options which will replace oil in the next decades.

    I have paid the oil industry hundreds of thousands of dollars in my farming career. They often gouge consumers. They continue to make substantial profits on the backs of consumers and the environment.

    They are opposed to protecting the environment if it affects profits. They need to be more accountable and responsible for the hidden costs of oil that we all pay for.

    Norway and Alaska have understood better that you can't rip and ship a one time finite resource for ever, damage the environment for generations and then let the oil industry take excess profits and not even clean up their mess.

    Peter Lougheed understood this, but many of the new generation of Albertans have lost this long term perspective.
    So you continue to attack oil companies, what about government. Just ran across an interesting article written on Dec. 11 on the CBC website. Up until now NewBrunswick consumers were subject to the federal carbon tax of $20 a tonne on gasoline, 4.42 cents a litre. Well NewBrunswick just negotiated a new deal with Trudeau. They will implement their own carbon tax, the same $20 a tonne but they are going to lower their existing excise tax on gasoline so that the consumer ends up paying a net increase of 1 cent a litre, this should certainly create a large incentive for change of habits. So Trudeau continues to make deals that really eliminate the carbon tax for certain areas of Canada. It really makes a mockery of the whole program!!!!

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      #14
      and how in hell can carbon tax be 4% on gasoline in western canada and 40% on natural gas ???????????????????????

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        #15
        Originally posted by caseih View Post
        and how in hell can carbon tax be 4% on gasoline in western canada and 40% on natural gas ???????????????????????
        Saskatchewan carbon tax will be increased by 50% tomorrow.....thanks to Trudeau, McKenna and traitor Goodale. 🖕🏻

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          #16
          3.1 cents carbon tax on a liter of propane, As of 48 minutes ago it is now 6.2. Ottawa GFYS.

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            #17
            Originally posted by Misterjade9 View Post
            3.1 cents carbon tax on a liter of propane, As of 48 minutes ago it is now 6.2. Ottawa GFYS.
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              #18
              Farming 101 if you read "Ottawa approves New Brunswick's carbon tax plan for consumers" on CBC you will find that New Brunswick has negotiated a new deal where the net cost payed by consumers is lower, the rates on the table you provided will not apply to New Brunswick. Apparently C02 produced in Atlantic Canada is somehow experienced differently by Justin Trudeau!!!!

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                #19
                Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                Farming 101 if you read "Ottawa approves New Brunswick's carbon tax plan for consumers" on CBC you will find that New Brunswick has negotiated a new deal where the net cost payed by consumers is lower, the rates on the table you provided will not apply to New Brunswick. Apparently C02 produced in Atlantic Canada is somehow experienced differently by Justin Trudeau!!!!
                Well that is one way of looking at it. The other way is that every province had the opportunity to develop their own carbon pricing plan or accept the fed's plan. NB choose to create their own cheaper system while the prairie province government sat around bitching and complaining and denying and thus ended up with a more expensive system. What is really funny is the carbon tax to Alberta residents is now higher under Kenney's leadership than it was or would be now under Notley because Kenney scrapped that bad ND plan in favor of a more expensive Liberal plan.

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                  #20
                  Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                  Well that is one way of looking at it. The other way is that every province had the opportunity to develop their own carbon pricing plan or accept the fed's plan. NB choose to create their own cheaper system while the prairie province government sat around bitching and complaining and denying and thus ended up with a more expensive system. What is really funny is the carbon tax to Alberta residents is now higher under Kenney's leadership than it was or would be now under Notley because Kenney scrapped that bad ND plan in favor of a more expensive Liberal plan.
                  I agree on one point, Alberta and Saskatchewan Premiers could negotiate a carbon tax run around like the Atlantic provinces have and as result we would pay less tax. Their continued fight against the tax is costing us money. But you are wrong that Notley's tax was lower. When Jason Kenney eliminated the carbon tax Albertan's were paying $30 a tonne. The new federal tax that is imposed on Alberta today is $20 a tonne and will rise to $30 a tonne April 1. The rebates on the federal tax are supposed to be higher than they were under Rachel Notley. Enjoy your day.

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                    #21
                    The. Carbon tax exposes itself to constitutional challenge every day they f with it. It's not applied evenly or fairly and a tax cannot go contrary to provincial resource development.

                    I smell a court win in 2020 to give Justin one up the side of the head.

                    Higgs jumped all over the carbon tax after Que killed NB job plan from energy east. They are now a welfare state and will act in lock step with Justin. NFld next in line for the dole. Then Ontario then BC.

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                      #22
                      How much will Quebec residents ever pay in carbon taxes?

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                        #23
                        Originally posted by farming101 View Post
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                        https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/forms-publications/publications/fcrates/fuel-charge-rates.html https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/forms-publications/publications/fcrates/fuel-charge-rates.html
                        Liberal Grain drying tax will get really ugly in 2022.

                        If you get 6443 litres of propane delivered that will be
                        $498.69 in carbon tax per fill. The electricity will also be taxed on running aeration fans and dryers.

                        This is getting out of hand.

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                          #24
                          My satellite TV $100 per month
                          My internet per month $100
                          My Carbon Tax per month on power and n.gas $6 /month

                          World is ending. Lol

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