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    #16
    Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    When I posed the question to Hamlock, I was hoping for something more substantive than just the motherhood and apple pie statements like you just gave and that we get from politicians every election. And to say that your ideas have no cost, then why are they not happening already if they are good ideas? IMHO I think the ideas you shared have a huge costs. Our immigration court systems are hugely backed up therefore need more judges/courts. More immigration officers. More detention facitlities. Same goes for rule of law. Are you calling for more police, more judges, more jails, longer sentences - all carry a cost? And how much freedom are you willing to give up to enforce stricter rule of law? Should police have more powers?
    AS for taking personal responsibility - I am not even sure what you mean? Less public support for individuals ie health care/ education funding/ welfare/ social security / old age pension UI payments. Are you also advocating less industry support like subsides, or tax breaks for companies, including getting rid of government support for ag including agrivest, crop insurance, public plant breeding, even trade
    missions to sell Canadian grain overseas?

    Unless we are willing to define exactly what we want and what we are willing to pay for, we will continue to get vague policy from government./
    I gave you an exact definition, but apparently your mind is still a bit cloudy from celebrating New Year's Eve?

    And I also pointed out that rather than cost, it would save the country money.

    The reason it's not already being done is because we have a jackass leading the country, one who thinks we are not a nation with borders.


    Not sure what is so difficult about understanding that enforcing immigration laws is a net benefit to our country.

    To try to make this fairly easy to understand, instead of the RCMP acting like porters carrying the border jumpers luggage for them, the cops should be cops and kick the illegals asses back across the border. use whatever force is necessary to help them understand that if they want to immigrate, they damn well get in line like the legal applicants do.

    They are not refugees, nor legal immigrants, they are criminals. And they think we are a bunch of pussies who are here to give them a free ride. And they clog up the courts and drain immigration resources, which only aggravates the bona fide applicants.

    You think there's no real cost to the illegals, dml?

    I have connections with some who "work" with the illegals. The border jumpers take us for fools, just because our Prime Minstrel acts like a fool. They get across, using the RCMP as porters, and know that they will be given housing and welfare.

    And furthermore, dml, do you really think they are going to abide by gun laws since they have already demonstrated that they don't give a rat's ass about our other laws? They break the law and get rewarded for it.

    The rest of us work for what we get and get punished for it.
    Last edited by burnt; Jan 1, 2020, 19:17.

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