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    #37
    Just watched the movie The Post. It was okay as a movie and worth a watch.

    The story was a reminder of how several US presidents knew that they couldn't win in Vietnam based on the research published in the Pentagon Papers.

    But that didn't stop them from sending many Americans and Vietnamese to their death in a futile war.

    Nixon worked hard to shut down the NYT and the Post from publishing the Pentagon Papers. But the Supreme court ruled against him.

    Justice Hugo Black wrote this: E]very moment's continuance of the injunctions ... amounts to a flagrant, indefensible, and continuing violation of the First Amendment. ... The press was to serve the governed, not the governors. The Government's power to censor the press was abolished so that the press would remain forever free to censure the Government. The press was protected so that it could bare the secrets of government and inform the people. Only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government. And paramount among the responsibilities of a free press is the duty to prevent any part of the government from deceiving the people and sending them off to distant lands to die of foreign fevers and foreign shot and shell.

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      #38
      Trumps response was due to the embassy attack which harks back to Iran in 1979 and Benghazi. Nothing nore, nothing less. Iran poked the bear too far. Embassies are soveriegn soil. Thats it.

      Only leftist whackos and terrorist sympathizers would go looking for anything beyond that.

      Trump isnt even impeached yet until geriatric nancy stumblers her way up to congress to drop off the notes.

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        #39
        Trump has been impeached, not yet removed from office.

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          #40
          Robertlarge: The problem with that thinking is since the first gulf war many Iranians, Iraquis and other middle eastern citizens think of the Americans as the terrorists.

          And we know that George W. Bush's decisions based on "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction" was a lie.

          "The first casualty of war is the truth."

          As fuel prices rise in time for spring seeding you may be able thank Donald for the increase.

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            #41
            Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
            Trump has been impeached, not yet removed from office.
            Trump has neither been impeached, nor referred to trial. The dems own witness admitted this.

            Impeachment is not in the books until articles delivered to Senate.

            Wont be removed no matter what happens. Reelected with 400 colleges more likely.

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              #42
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              As fuel prices rise in time for spring seeding you may be able thank Donald
              for the increase.
              I will be still be cursing Trudeau and praising our patch if that happens. Fuel prices are nothing compared to ever increasing govt taxes and **** from input dealers and machine companies.

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                #43
                Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                Trump has been impeached, not yet removed from office.
                WTf ??

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                  #44
                  No I will be thanking our pisshead leader that you get wet over.

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                    #45
                    Iran should back up their bluster. There is a US carrier in the gulf right now. Go after it, try to sink it and see what happens.

                    Watch the strait get closed off by two more carriers and the Iran economy destroyed overnight while trump pumps away in the Permian with Canada on backup. Trump would kill both Chinas and NK economy too.

                    This is the problem with concentrated assets like the ME oil facilities, millions of bbls coming out of a couple locations that are prime targets. US and Canada have millions of wells all over the continent, our supply could never be shut down that way.

                    But I hear Iran is going to a cyberstrike and shut down Trumps twitter account, that could be devastating.

                    I notice lil kimmy pretty quiet after that drone strike. He is probably thinking about having coffee with Trump again after this past week.
                    Last edited by jazz; Jan 5, 2020, 12:48.

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                      #46
                      The Democrats will not send the impeachment to trial. They know they have no case and stand zero chance of winning. They just wasted millions of dollars and valuable assets being pills.

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                        #47
                        Originally posted by caseih View Post
                        WTf ??
                        Lefties had having meltdowns over Trump cleaning up the Iran mess that Barack Hussein Obama caused.

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                          #48
                          Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
                          Lefties had having meltdowns over Trump cleaning up the Iran mess that Barack Hussein Obama caused.
                          This goes even further back than that, Bush Jr attacking Iraq in 2006 only to let the country fall into ISIS hands and now we help defeat ISIS and Iran takes over. Iran has taken over the Iraqi parliament and forced through a vote to have all American troops leave but not Iranian ones. What a fd up place.

                          Trump is going for a larger strategy that will end this once and for all. Step 1 get off their oil. Step 2 let Russia and China get bogged down in there. Lets see if China will send carriers in there to protect oil movement. Lets see how a communist regime and a islamofacist regime get along.

                          Why would the US f around with these countries when Ab has enough oil to supply them for 100 yrs. Does Jason Kenny have a phone?
                          Last edited by jazz; Jan 5, 2020, 13:48.

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