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[Guest]

sure doesn't stop you from discussing it every time you come on here though
why don't you talk about farming, grain prices , machinery purchases , **** , anything about agriculture would be welcome

[blackpowder]

I apologise, I started it I guess.
Happily, I can't read a word he says.

Mallee. How quickly will that brush grow back???

[chuckChuck]

LOL - the most popular thread in the last few days has been all about "Skippy missing in action"!

Like Trump or the Australian Prime Ministers don't have vacations? Brain Pallister Manitoba premier spends many weeks in Costa Rica every year! Why the double standard?

And you want me to discuss more farm topics?

SF3 has rarely made a post that didn't blame Trudeau for how 'bad" Canada is. He has almost nothing else to say!

[flea beetle]

The Australian Prime minister is getting a rough ride from citizens affected by the fires.

Accused of not providing enough support for the for communities affected. And standing by his climate change denial. Describing one of the worst fire seasons ever as normal in Australia. "Missing in action" with his vacation in Hawaii when there is a national emergency. Yikes!

How long will his political career last at this rate? He may soon be a another casualty of the fires.

YOU said that he is standing by his climate change denial. That is why I asked what fires have to do with climate change. Why bring it up?

[chuckChuck]

I already answered

"In a warming world with more extreme events of hot and dry weather, scientists are saying that fires seasons will be longer and potentially more severe."

[chuckChuck]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/03/australias-bushfires-reveal-how-scott-morrison-has-lost-his-way/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/03/australias-bushfires-reveal-how-scott-morrison-has-lost-his-way/

Australia’s bush fires reveal how Scott Morrison has lost his way

By
Richard Glover
Jan. 3, 2020 at 9:59 a.m. CST

A politician’s desire to connect with voters, to help them through a crisis, normally beats other urges. But in Australia, as wildfires consume homes and extinguish lives, the country’s leader seems to have lost his way.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison achieved a surprise election victory in May due to his ability to speak clearly and optimistically to voters. “How good is Australia!” he said on election night, as the tally room gave him victory.

Yet leadership is about the bad times more than the good.

Morrison, a former managing director of Tourism Australia, has a background in marketing. Australians are now wondering whether they have elected a leader who is more skilled at celebrating the positive than dealing with a crisis. It’s a belief captured in the widespread use this week of the mocking hashtag #ScottyfromMarketing.

It’s hard to convey the scale of Australia’s ongoing wildfire emergency. In its most populous state, New South Wales, at least 16 people have died, more than 1,300 homes been lost since July 1, and 3.6 million hectares have been burnt. Millions of wild animals have also died. Further south, in Victoria, at least 28 people are unaccounted for and two are confirmed dead.

The area burnt is already much greater than the 900,000 hectares lost in the 2019 Amazon fires and the 800,000 hectares that burned in California in 2018.

In the past week, coastal towns in the country’s southeast have been attacked by flames, with holidaymakers forced to run toward the relative safety of the beach as the skies turned red and ash rained down. In holiday resorts such as Mallacoota, ringed by fire, the navy is now conducting a sea evacuation of thousands of people who have been cowering on the shoreline. Some — like 11-year-old Finn Burns, who was captured in a viral photo from Tuesday — took to small boats to escape.
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Further north, in New South Wales, tens of thousands of people have now been ordered to leave coastal areas, with a day of strong winds and hot temperatures forecast for Saturday. It is among the largest emergency movements of people in the country’s history.

It’s hard to find anyone who is unaffected in some way. For me, a bush house I built with friends now has flames at the gate. For others, like those in the nation’s capital, the air quality is so poor that stores have sold out of face marks.

Local leaders — such as the premier of New South Wales, Gladys Berejiklian — have worked every day of the crisis, directing operations and comforting those who have lost homes and loved ones. Berejiklian is part of the same political party as the prime minister, and yet the contrast has been stark.

A fortnight ago, as the fires intensified, the prime minister slipped out of the country to enjoy a family holiday in Hawaii. Amid mounting criticism, he returned home a day early after the death of two volunteer firefighters, essentially admitting the trip had been a mistake. He also rejected offers of advice from an expert group of former firefighters and refused to move up a proposed national summit on the emergency.
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Instead, he has sung from his customary songbook. In a news conference this week, he argued the current crisis was nothing new: “They are natural disasters. They wreak this sort of havoc when they affect our country, and they have for a very long time. The best way to respond is the way that Australians have always responded.”

A day earlier, he spoke of the fires as a “time of great challenge for Australia,” but then urged Australians to watch the traditional cricket match against New Zealand and “be inspired by the great feats of our cricketers from both sides of the Tasman.” He also delivered a New Year’s Day television address telling Australians “there’s no better place to raise kids anywhere on the planet.”

By the time Morrison visited affected communities this week, people were furious. In one devastated town, the prime minister was jeered by locals, forcing him to quickly return to his car. A senior member of his own party said he got “the welcome he probably deserved.”
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Morrison’s grudging response seems uncannily similar to that of George W. Bush, caught wrong-footed by Hurricane Katrina in 2005. Bush was slow to return from vacation and seemed unable to understand the scale of the disaster. Some say his presidency never recovered. With Bush’s example to consider, why is the Australian prime minister so eagerly flinging himself into the same trap?

The most obvious explanation: It’s a measure of how keen he is to avoid discussion of climate change and its role in increasing the ferocity of these fires. To admit that these fires are unprecedented in their scale, timing and intensity would be to admit that Australia is particularly vulnerable to the impact of climate change. And that would, in turn, put pressure on his government to be a leader, rather than a laggard, when it comes to reducing carbon emissions.

For a man who once proudly carried a lump of coal into Parliament in order to sing its praises, that, it seems, is an outcome to be resisted at all cost. Even if the cost is his own popularity.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I won't waste my time posting links that Chuck won't follow, but try a google search for forest fires decline. The evidence completely contradicts the alarmist narrative and media hype.
There is no point in arguing with someone who is unable to differentiate between present tense and hypothetical future tense.

There is no valid excuse for exploiting anyone's misfortune for political gain.

[chuckChuck]

Giving up so soon? I posted science for BC that clearly proves you are wrong. Where is your countering evidence?

Yes give up! Anyone with a brain knows that hotter and dryer conditions will lead to more severe forest fires covering larger areas. And that is what Australia is experiencing right now.

Since human caused climate change is happening it shouldn't be too hard for you to connect the dots.

But don't worry I don't expect you or many of the most frequent flat earthers on Agriville to change your mind.

[chuckChuck]

"Environment and Climate Change Canada scientists recently completed a study on the influence of human-induced climate change on British Columbia’s 2017 wildfire season. Published in Earth’s Future, the study found that human influences on the climate played a major role in the extreme 2017 wildfire season and substantially increased the risk of wildfires. The area burned was seven to eleven times larger than would have been expected without human influences on the climate."

It's not hypothetical and its in the past tense as in already happened. But don't let that stop you from proving me wrong! LOL

[TASFarms]

Giving up so soon? I posted science for BC that clearly proves you are wrong. Where is your countering evidence?

Yes give up! Anyone with a brain knows that hotter and dryer conditions will lead to more severe forest fires covering larger areas. And that is what Australia is experiencing right now.

Since human caused climate change is happening it shouldn't be too hard for you to connect the dots.

But don't worry I don't expect you or many of the most frequent flat earthers on Agriville to change your mind.

How much are you being paid to post this climate change crap?