Canadas Population

[jazz]

From a recent G&M article; They left off Sk and Mb but I have read another 500k for each of those provinces is in the cards.

Anyway the power structure will be based in the east for the foreseeable future.
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How much bigger are our cities about to become?

Let’s start in British Columbia. The province’s demographers expect that B.C., with 5-million people today, will grow by 1.3-million by 2041. More than three-quarters of those new residents are expected to make their homes in the Lower Mainland, a.k.a. Greater Vancouver.

That’s an extra million people in Canada’s third largest city, in just two decades. It’s the equivalent of the entire population of Prince Edward Island moving to Vancouver, every three years. Before a child born today has graduated university, the Vancouver area will have added nearly as many people as currently live in Saskatchewan.

Or consider Alberta. Over the next quarter-century, according to the Alberta Treasury Board’s projections, the province expects to add 2.3-million people – 80 per cent of them in Edmonton, Calgary and the corridor between the two cities. That would mean urban Alberta growing by two Nova Scotias or four Newfoundlands.

In Quebec, the Institut de la statistique projects the province will add 1.1-million people between 2016 and 2041, nearly three-quarters of them in Greater Montreal. The Montreal area already has as many people as Alberta; over two decades, it will add the population of Winnipeg.

And then there’s Toronto. Every day, it becomes more of a global megacity.
According to Ontario’s projections, the Greater Toronto Area will grow from nearly 7-million people to 10.2-million by 2046. Add the horseshoe of growing communities around the GTA, from Niagara to Kitchener-Waterloo to Barrie and, by 2046, what we’ll call the Greater, Greater Toronto Area will have 14.6-million people, up from 10 million today.

That’s an extra 4.6-million residents, more than the population of Alberta, soon to be making their homes within roughly 100 kilometres of the corner of King and Bay streets.

And that’s Ontario’s “medium" growth estimate. There’s also a high-growth scenario. Under that projection, by 2046, the GGTA might have nearly 17-million people. That’s like dropping five Manitobas into the Toronto region, or six Saskatchewans, or one-and-a-half Albertas.

[15444]

Fantastic. Then all the war tribes can come together in one mega city and kill each other. Put that shit on PPV. I'll pay extra for the episodes filmed in Keebeck.

[macdon02]

From a recent G&M article; They left off Sk and Mb but I have read another 500k for each of those provinces is in the cards.

Anyway the power structure will be based in the east for the foreseeable future.
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How much bigger are our cities about to become?

Let’s start in British Columbia. The province’s demographers expect that B.C., with 5-million people today, will grow by 1.3-million by 2041. More than three-quarters of those new residents are expected to make their homes in the Lower Mainland, a.k.a. Greater Vancouver.

That’s an extra million people in Canada’s third largest city, in just two decades. It’s the equivalent of the entire population of Prince Edward Island moving to Vancouver, every three years. Before a child born today has graduated university, the Vancouver area will have added nearly as many people as currently live in Saskatchewan.

Or consider Alberta. Over the next quarter-century, according to the Alberta Treasury Board’s projections, the province expects to add 2.3-million people – 80 per cent of them in Edmonton, Calgary and the corridor between the two cities. That would mean urban Alberta growing by two Nova Scotias or four Newfoundlands.

In Quebec, the Institut de la statistique projects the province will add 1.1-million people between 2016 and 2041, nearly three-quarters of them in Greater Montreal. The Montreal area already has as many people as Alberta; over two decades, it will add the population of Winnipeg.

And then there’s Toronto. Every day, it becomes more of a global megacity.
According to Ontario’s projections, the Greater Toronto Area will grow from nearly 7-million people to 10.2-million by 2046. Add the horseshoe of growing communities around the GTA, from Niagara to Kitchener-Waterloo to Barrie and, by 2046, what we’ll call the Greater, Greater Toronto Area will have 14.6-million people, up from 10 million today.

That’s an extra 4.6-million residents, more than the population of Alberta, soon to be making their homes within roughly 100 kilometres of the corner of King and Bay streets.

And that’s Ontario’s “medium" growth estimate. There’s also a high-growth scenario. Under that projection, by 2046, the GGTA might have nearly 17-million people. That’s like dropping five Manitobas into the Toronto region, or six Saskatchewans, or one-and-a-half Albertas.

Ok, let's play devil's advocate. What exactly will be the source of employment? Service industry that's being replaced by smart boards? Oil? I don't think so. Manufacturing? Not with the current USMCA agreement as we have no source of steel or aluminum that makes us cost competitive. Maybe we can consume everything we produce? Not likely as even with the influx of migration the average age will be beyond the consumption phase. That leaves health care. What am I missing for possible employment? House keeping duties? That only works if govt isn't consuming all disposable income. Even transportation is getting hammered as demand for goods is fueled by debt that has rates increasing for the private sector. Tech will never move here as the tax rate is lower in Florida, Texas, Nevada, Wyoming, The Dakotas, plus the carbon tax increases energy costs beyond those countries that subsidize like China, hence bitcoin being predominately mined there. A 10% carbon tax and 15% differential in corporate tax will drive any investment away that isn't directly subsidized by the tax payer or govt tit. Assuming the loonie doesn't get smashed due to BOC rate cuts or the Fed govt indulging on more debt. In which case any goods produced in Canada will return a fraction of what they would based in USD as the major inputs are all priced at a premium as they need to be US sourced. The only gain would be in labor, by currency, at a reduced cost and we need to be competitive with Mexico as the alternative, that'll work for no pension and burns coal. Where's those green jobs peddling bicycles and blowing on wind mills? China has been replaced by Mexico as far as providing goods to the US, Canada's supply chain isn't structured for this new agreement. The current trade agreement negates any currency fluctuation through tarrifs. We agreed to it and the tarrifs can float according to currency differential.

[chuckChuck]

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/canada-economy-global-ranking_ca_5e0f619be4b0843d361182c2 https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/canada-economy-global-ranking_ca_5e0f619be4b0843d361182c2


Canada’s Economy To Overtake Brazil, Italy To Reach #8 On Global Rankings: Report
The country's ability to attract skilled migrants is making a big difference.

By Daniel Tencer

Canada’s Economy To Overtake Brazil, Italy To Reach #8 On Global Rankings:

MONTREAL ― Canada’s high levels of immigration have pushed the country back into the world’s top 10 largest economies, and the country is expected to keep rising in the rankings over the next decade, a new report predicts.

For decades, economists predicted Canada’s economy would drop out of the ranks of the world’s largest as less-developed countries caught up with the developed world. And, indeed, Canada did fall out of the top 10 about a decade ago.

But the annual World Economic League Table from the London-based Centre for Economics and Business Research (Cebr) shows Canada has regained its top-10 status, ranking as the 10th largest economy in the world in 2018 and 2019.

East Asia’s once-booming economies aren’t growing as quickly as they had been. Meanwhile, Canada’s ability to attract skilled immigrants means it will keep growing in the rankings, Cebr said in a report. It expects Canada to overtake both Italy and Brazil to have the world’s 8th-largest economy by 2029.
Canada's economy will surpass Brazil and Italy to become the world's eighth-largest over the next decade,...

“One of the persistent themes of this report is that countries that are successful in attracting skilled migrants tend to grow faster. And reflecting this, Canada and Australia, which are two of the most successful countries at attracting inward migration, are predicted to rise in the rankings,” Cebr said.

The slowdown in Asia means Cebr expects China to overtake the U.S. as the world’s largest economy a little later than previously expected, around 2033, from an earlier estimate of around 2030.

Strong growth in the U.S. means the country accounted for 24.8 per cent of the global economy in 2019, its highest share since 2007, the report noted.

“The biggest surprise is how well the U.S. economy has managed to do, reaching its highest share of world GDP for 12 years,” Cebr deputy chairperson Douglas McWilliams said in a statement.

“Though our view is that it has reached its high water mark and, moving forward, the deficit and its trade disputes will start to hold it back. Still, this is a remarkable performance for an old world economy. ”
U.S.-Chinese tensions could define global economy

The report noted that India has now “decisively” overtaken Britain and France to have the world’s fifth-largest economy. By 2034, it will have leapfrogged Germany and Japan to take third place, after China and the U.S., Cebr predicts.

Despite many developing countries ― particularly in Asia ― rising in the ranks, the emerging global economy is one that will be dominated by the U.S. and China, Cebr said, with those two countries together controlling 42 per cent of the global economy by 2034.

“The 2020s are set to be a decade marked by continued tensions between the U.S. and China on multiple fronts, ranging from trade to tech, which will cast a long shadow over the rest of the global economy.” Cebr senior economist Pablo Shah said.

[agstar77]

You suckers better get to work. They will all want cheap food!

[jazz]

Canada’s Economy To Overtake Brazil, Italy To Reach #8 On Global Rankings: Report

Maybe repost after the Trudeau recession and see how far back he takes us.

Canada is on its way to a G19-22 ranking in the world and nothing can stop that.

Whats more interesting is the countries that will out rank us read like a dictators bed time novel. Nigeria, Pakistan, Egypt and Mexico all poised to lead frog us.

Good one Canada. Only a nation lead by imbeciles could let 3rd world despot nations outflank us while we sit on fing trillions worth of natural resources. All while we stuff more people into condos.

[Guest]

“The biggest surprise is how well the U.S. economy has managed to do, reaching its highest share of world GDP for 12 years,” Cebr deputy chairperson Douglas McWilliams said in a statement.

“Though our view is that it has reached its high water mark and, moving forward, the deficit and its trade disputes will start to hold it back. Still, this is a remarkable performance for an old world economy.

trump bad , trump bad, trump bad

[jazz]

Lile macdon says, other than people buying fast food from each other, what will be the economic driver of the next few decades that will support another 15M people into this country?

[Misterjade9]

The answer to that question Jazz is quite simple, nothing. Canada will have nothing in a few years but a serviced based economy, which as we know is not sustainable. Well maybe it can be sustainable if the feds inject massive amounts of cash into it, but at some point with no new wealth being added to the economy it just consumes itself and we are done. Chuck says that these new immigrants will all be highly skilled, that is great but what will they do? I know, I know, there will be green jobs for everyone, but what does that look like? What is a green job? Will I have 500 workers to seed, rogue and harvest so that I don't burn any fossil fuels or use chemicals to produce food, oh there are places in the world that do that now, we call them third world countries, see where we are headed.

[burnt]

The answer to that question Jazz is quite simple, nothing. Canada will have nothing in a few years but a serviced based economy, which as we know is not sustainable. Well maybe it can be sustainable if the feds inject massive amounts of cash into it, but at some point with no new wealth being added to the economy it just consumes itself and we are done. Chuck says that these new immigrants will all be highly skilled, that is great but what will they do? I know, I know, there will be green jobs for everyone, but what does that look like? What is a green job? Will I have 500 workers to seed, rogue and harvest so that I don't burn any fossil fuels or use chemicals to produce food, oh there are places in the world that do that now, we call them third world countries, see where we are headed.

One of the most felt impacts will be the massive breakdown in our healthcare system. It was not even sustainable before immigration reached crisis levels - it will completely fall apart as this humanly-induced crisis unfolds. The only ones who will get decent healthcare will be the elites who created the problem.

Just like the failed Soviet state. The elites ate caviar and drank champagne while the masses rioted, starved and perished.

Want a present day example of where we are headed - our prime minstrel suns himself while all others are told to exercise restraint.

[jazz]

One of the most felt impacts will be the massive breakdown in our healthcare system. It was not even sustainable before immigration reached crisis levels - it will completely fall apart as this humanly-induced crisis unfolds. The only ones who will get decent healthcare will be the elites who created the problem.

Just like the failed Soviet state. The elites ate caviar and drank champagne while the masses rioted, starved and perished.

Want a present day example of where we are headed - our prime minstrel suns himself while all others are told to exercise restraint.

On top of that, why not effort to integrate our indigenous population into the work force before we import a bunch more people.

And why not some announcements of where that economy will be other than unicorns and fairies. You notice the left always announces some job plan that has no foundation. Instead of looking at Canadas strengths and expanding on them, they dream up an entire mythical sector that doesn't exist and is not likely. Europe has had massive immigration and their GDP is failing. I don't think anyone would consider them high skilled except maybe the germans.

This actually sounds more like a socialist experiment than an economic plan. Scary.

[Herc]

On top of that, why not effort to integrate our indigenous population into the work force before we import a bunch more people.

Cause its far easier to stand in line and collect a cheque than it is to work for it. Keep sending cheques......

[bucket]

This may be off topic ...but I watched the rebel media video on the other thread....There is a problem in this country...

If you support the general that was killed by the americans....maybe you are living in the wrong country?

Just an observation....or you may be protesting in the wrong country....

But it is not a good path....

[WiltonRanch]

I’ve read before there is a movement afoot to increase Canada’s population to 100 million. Lofty and relatively unattainable reasoning our growth rate isn’t even replacement and even at robust immigration levels getting to 50 million as quick as planned is a stretch. With populations becoming older and less likely to emigrate from their countries, finding skilled workers is becoming harder to do. Then when you do get the skilled workers here keeping them employed is a bigger challenge. I did my once a decade winter vacation to somewhere warm and met up with an Egyptian fellow and his family. He is a computer programmer in Calgary and develops corporate software. Says business is slow and considering relocating to either Vancouver or Toronto but is worried about housing prices. That worries me more than anything when an enterprising immigrant in one of Trudeaus fancy tech industries says he can hardly make a go of it. Not to mention a westerner considering leaving the west.

[helmsdale]

Here's the one I'm having trouble squaring... And clearly everyone is wondering how this thread has stood for a day nearly untouched by the climate change lense.

If we are in a "climate emergency", that threatens our very existence, how are we supposed to integrate these individuals, and at the same time, lower our TOTAL CO2 footprint? We live in one of the highest per capita emmitting nations, so it would seem like for the sake of the world, we should be telling immigrants to look elsewhere?

Good lord, we have couples of child bearing age that have sworn off having kids because it could lead to the demise of the world, yet we have a government actively looking for immigrants?

One could possibly make the argument that further immigrant populations in warmer climates like the lower mainland could be accommodated without seriously increasing our CO2 output, but how does one incorporate more people into the prairies, or for that matter even quebec and ontario who can have miserable winters?

I feel like endorsing the need for radical action against climate change, and unmitigated mass migration are at odds with one another. Am i wrong? I guess you could square the circle, by gambling on the adoption of "future technology" to lower carbon emissions in the first world leading to lower overall global reductions in CO2.

But honestly, if you're truly serious about the absolutely dire nature of climate change, wouldn't it be prudent to keep poorer people in the poor regions of the world? For that matter, wouldn't declining birthrates, an aging of the population, and inevitably, a declining population in the advanced world be advantageous?