Canadas Population

[jazz]

One of the most felt impacts will be the massive breakdown in our healthcare system. It was not even sustainable before immigration reached crisis levels - it will completely fall apart as this humanly-induced crisis unfolds. The only ones who will get decent healthcare will be the elites who created the problem.

Just like the failed Soviet state. The elites ate caviar and drank champagne while the masses rioted, starved and perished.

Want a present day example of where we are headed - our prime minstrel suns himself while all others are told to exercise restraint.

On top of that, why not effort to integrate our indigenous population into the work force before we import a bunch more people.

And why not some announcements of where that economy will be other than unicorns and fairies. You notice the left always announces some job plan that has no foundation. Instead of looking at Canadas strengths and expanding on them, they dream up an entire mythical sector that doesn't exist and is not likely. Europe has had massive immigration and their GDP is failing. I don't think anyone would consider them high skilled except maybe the germans.

This actually sounds more like a socialist experiment than an economic plan. Scary.

[Herc]

On top of that, why not effort to integrate our indigenous population into the work force before we import a bunch more people.

Cause its far easier to stand in line and collect a cheque than it is to work for it. Keep sending cheques......

[bucket]

This may be off topic ...but I watched the rebel media video on the other thread....There is a problem in this country...

If you support the general that was killed by the americans....maybe you are living in the wrong country?

Just an observation....or you may be protesting in the wrong country....

But it is not a good path....

[WiltonRanch]

I’ve read before there is a movement afoot to increase Canada’s population to 100 million. Lofty and relatively unattainable reasoning our growth rate isn’t even replacement and even at robust immigration levels getting to 50 million as quick as planned is a stretch. With populations becoming older and less likely to emigrate from their countries, finding skilled workers is becoming harder to do. Then when you do get the skilled workers here keeping them employed is a bigger challenge. I did my once a decade winter vacation to somewhere warm and met up with an Egyptian fellow and his family. He is a computer programmer in Calgary and develops corporate software. Says business is slow and considering relocating to either Vancouver or Toronto but is worried about housing prices. That worries me more than anything when an enterprising immigrant in one of Trudeaus fancy tech industries says he can hardly make a go of it. Not to mention a westerner considering leaving the west.

[helmsdale]

Here's the one I'm having trouble squaring... And clearly everyone is wondering how this thread has stood for a day nearly untouched by the climate change lense.

If we are in a "climate emergency", that threatens our very existence, how are we supposed to integrate these individuals, and at the same time, lower our TOTAL CO2 footprint? We live in one of the highest per capita emmitting nations, so it would seem like for the sake of the world, we should be telling immigrants to look elsewhere?

Good lord, we have couples of child bearing age that have sworn off having kids because it could lead to the demise of the world, yet we have a government actively looking for immigrants?

One could possibly make the argument that further immigrant populations in warmer climates like the lower mainland could be accommodated without seriously increasing our CO2 output, but how does one incorporate more people into the prairies, or for that matter even quebec and ontario who can have miserable winters?

I feel like endorsing the need for radical action against climate change, and unmitigated mass migration are at odds with one another. Am i wrong? I guess you could square the circle, by gambling on the adoption of "future technology" to lower carbon emissions in the first world leading to lower overall global reductions in CO2.

But honestly, if you're truly serious about the absolutely dire nature of climate change, wouldn't it be prudent to keep poorer people in the poor regions of the world? For that matter, wouldn't declining birthrates, an aging of the population, and inevitably, a declining population in the advanced world be advantageous?

[helmsdale]

If we are expected going forward to "do more with less," then shouldn't government, and indeed western populations, honestly sit down and figure out how they are going to do more (grow GDP, or at least GDP per capita), with less people?

Shame! as Greta would say... Isn't it a shame, that we NEED immigrants in the developed world to solve our upcoming retirement crisis? We have a whole pile of boomers heading for the door, and no way to fund them without relying on immigrants to change our population demographics.

Those boomers are on the decline with regards to their consumption patterns. They will soon no longer be requiring vehicles, spatious suburban homes, and things with which to fill those homes. They will instead be looking for retirement villa's, seniors assisted living complexes, and handi-busses to ferry them back and forth from medical appointments.

If the climate crisis is indeed dire, this is in itself a godsent partial solution! But here we are talking out of one side of our mouth saying the climate crisis is the challenge of a lifetime, and at the same time saying we need to dramatically increase our national populations in order to maintain the personal consumption economy that nearly every western nation is dependant upon. We need bodies to fill those suburban houses, people to fill the retail outlets, and yet more people to keep this circular service economy going.

If we were truly serious about the state of the climate, wouldn't it only make sense that immigration needs to be eliminated altogether, or at least looked at strictly through the lense of climate change, rather than national demographics and financial solvency?

[Misterjade9]

Come on you can't expect politicians to understand logic like that.