Oops I guess science can be wrong

[Farmer4Life]

The Union of Concerned Scientists, an MIT group of over 250 scientists published an article in 2008 to dispute and discredit the research done in Micheal Chrichton's fictional but well factually researched book State of Fear a book about Eco terrorists and climate change.
Not only did this group but many in media also discounted his research and yet within their own argument the Union of Concerned Scientists are clearly wrong. In their argument they stated;

"The rapid melting of the Kilimanjaro glacier is mentioned only to be dismissed. Crichton doesn't let the reader know, however, that this ice sheet has survived the past 11,000 years, including a 300 year long African mega-drought. At present rates of melting, Mt. Kilimanjaro glacier is likely to be gone before 2020."

Nope!! glacier is still there.

On top of this media and governments have all discounted the role of domestic Eco Terrorism as it relates to climate change yet there are countless examples including this earlier today.

"Two men charged with lighting separate bushfires in South Australia have identities suppressed"
By Brittany Evins and Rebecca Chave
Posted earlier today at 12:57am

So why are their names being suppressed?

[woodland]

Science is not always absolutely correct. Thalidomide, lead based paint, asbestos, ......... etc are all evidence of such. I think it’s good to be a bit of a skeptic and not always follow the herd of “lemmings” wherever they may be headed just because someone thinks it’s a good idea

[littledoggie]

Ah, the nature of science - what we know today we didn't know yesterday, and tomorrow we'll know something that we didn't know today. In my opinion, science is rarely 'settled'.

[littledoggie]

Science is not always absolutely correct. Thalidomide, lead based paint, asbestos, ......... etc are all evidence of such. I think it’s good to be a bit of a skeptic and not always follow the herd of “lemmings” wherever they may be headed just because someone thinks it’s a good idea

We think as a herd.
We succumb to madness as a herd.
We come to our senses as individuals.

[tweety]

True science questions everything - it is neither right nor wrong. It is a process. The very word "consensus" is a social, political term and should never be used when speaking about science.

The science is never settled.

[agstar77]

The converse is also true . Science is not always wrong and has been settled on many issues. It is only as good as the observations made by humans. What is your alternative go back to tarot reading? It would be irresponsible for scientists not to give there theories. Then they need to be subjected to rigorous criticism.

[jazz]

The converse is also true . Science is not always wrong and has been settled on many issues. It is only as good as the observations made by humans. What is your alternative go back to tarot reading? It would be irresponsible for scientists not to give there theories. Then they need to be subjected to rigorous criticism.

But it would be irresponsible for scientists to align with poor public policy before the problem has been fully studied and understood.

That's the problem, in the quest for funding, they jump the gun just like the hurricane geniuses in my other thread. They slapped together a model hoping it would match a mega storm and then they could crow about it afterward and they got their hat handed to them with a failed prediction.

[burnt]

The converse is also true . Science is not always wrong and has been settled on many issues. It is only as good as the observations made by humans. What is your alternative go back to tarot reading? It would be irresponsible for scientists not to give there theories. Then they need to be subjected to rigorous criticism.

Why the utter audacity of your suggestion regarding criticism of "science" - Builder Barbie, formerly Climate Barbie, said she has no time for those who do not agree with her unfounded theory.

Builder Barbie's bio would better lend itself to reading tarot cards than trying to develop policy based on science. What a useless
and dangerous appendage of this current government.

[bobofthenorth]

True science questions everything - it is neither right nor wrong. It is a process. The very word "consensus" is a social, political term and should never be used when speaking about science.

The science is never settled.

EXACTLY.

The goal of real scientists is always to DISprove their theory on any particular subject. The LACK of dispositive results ends up supporting the theory. The climate cult goes exactly opposite to real scientists. The warmists suppress any dispositive findings.

Most recent evidence? Canada's CO2 emissions in a carbon tax world went up last year. You won't find that information on Environment Canada's website because they took the numbers down shortly after they posted them. Its what you call "An Inconvenient Truth". Evidently we can't actually tax the environment into submission. Who knew?

[jazz]

Climate scientists remind me of pharmacuetical researchers. Sure they do some good, but sometimes they lock into one thing so bad that they cant see reason. Thats why you get adverstisements for drugs on TV with a list of side effects and adverse reactions worse than the original disease. At least they are bound by law to report things that didnt work.

Climate scientists never do that.

The Aussie fires should be reported in relation to every other fire event that has happened so people can temper their reaction.

if I put out a crazy vid on the news with flames killing koalas of course you are going to go nuts. But that same report followed by reference to the 10 other major burning events in the country going back as far as 1800s would give you a little more pause.

if it bleeds it leads and with no context.