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    #13
    Originally posted by mustardman View Post
    This ALL started because wingnut Trump Cancelled the Nuclear agreement with Iran.
    Trump didn’t understand the deal but Obama had done it ,So it must be bad
    Then he put on punishing sanctions on Iran

    First Bush Destabilizes Iraq which kept Iran in check, the destabilization Creates ISIS and now Trump continues the F##k up
    Lets correct that statement.

    Bush jr caused the original destabilization with the iraq invasion and no plan for rebuilding the country.

    Iran stepped into the vacuum along with ISIS and those proxy groups spread into Syria, Lebanon, Palestine etc. They are the reason Assad survived until Russia came in.

    Obama bribes Iran with $150B to stop nukes for a few years. That money arms proxies more, spreads their influence further until Iran is in Iraq and beyond. World demands US remove ISIS, Iran takes that territory too and moved unimpeded through the region all the way to Israel border. Iran resume secret enrichment anyway, sells tech to NK, arms terrorists etc.

    Trump elected to clean it up.

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      #14
      It started in 1978 .....

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        #15
        Originally posted by jazz View Post
        Trump elected to clean it up.
        Let me rephrase, Trump to get us the hell out of there and let the region go to hell. Park a carrier group at the straight and let china try and get oil out of there.

        Develop NA oil out the yingyang until Canada US are producing 25mm bbl a day, forget that there is 2/3rd of the globe still living like its the stone age.

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          #16
          Wars already over boys, we got their 2nd in command and a new drone assassination threat - wont be any iranian leaders slipping over into Iraq for tea for a while.

          They got to shoot off some bottle rockets for a couple hrs, and got slapped with more sanctions.

          Until next time.
          Last edited by jazz; Jan 8, 2020, 12:35.

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            #17
            Yeah that was over quick. Oil under $60 per barrel already so the market is removing the war premium. Hopefully the oil companies got some hedging done for that was the price peak for the next couple of months anyways. Will have to hand it to president Trump for masterfully handling the situation and proving his detractors wrong the the 454 th or so time.

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              #18
              good deflection from his impeachment fiasco

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                #19
                Originally posted by katoe View Post
                good deflection from his impeachment fiasco
                Let me rephrase that: good deflection from #tehrannancy's impeachment fiasco

                (credit to SGR for handle)

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                  #20
                  Still have yet to find out if Iran shot down a plane and killed 176 innocent civilians. Reports of fireball hitting the plane, tramistter stopping, plane falling to the ground. Planes can fly with a single engine. Wont turn over the black box.
                  Last edited by jazz; Jan 8, 2020, 19:52.

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                    #21
                    Originally posted by jazz View Post
                    Still have yet to find out if Iran shot down a plane and killed 176 innocent civilians. Reports of fireball hitting the plane, tramistter stopping, plane falling to the ground. Planes can fly with a single engine. Wont turn over the black box.
                    Smells all too fishy to not be a nefarious act that downed the plane but let’s not forget it was a 737 and their record as of late hasn’t been great. Iran looks suspicious as hell for not turning black box over to Boeing but you know there’s a few hard feelings there. Maybe Iran is as dumb****led as anyone else. Who knows maybe a terrorist planted bomb or a “rogue” faction missile. If eyewitnesses reports of fuselage engulfed are true all roads lead to the same conclusion.

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                      #22
                      Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
                      Smells all too fishy to not be a nefarious act that downed the plane but let’s not forget it was a 737 and their record as of late hasn’t been great. Iran looks suspicious as hell for not turning black box over to Boeing but you know there’s a few hard feelings there. Maybe Iran is as dumb****led as anyone else. Who knows maybe a terrorist planted bomb or a “rogue” faction missile. If eyewitnesses reports of fuselage engulfed are true all roads lead to the same conclusion.
                      This is really a testament to how messed up some of these armed countries are.

                      The reports coming in is Iran ordered its military to attack this US base, they had precision missles they proceeded to launch which missed the base entirely and landed on a deserted beach. Those soldiers got so spooked about a retaliation that they abandoned the operation and ran off mid operation.

                      Tehran had itself so worked up after the funeral and statements from its leader proceeded to turn its missile defenses on to max and took out a civilian jet taking off from its own airport filled with its own people. These are mostly dual passport Iranians Canadians.

                      Its also a testament to how professional and restrained the US really is. Can you imagine of the US flew some stealth bombers or F22 raptors over that city? They would have gone totally batshit.

                      And somehow not wanting these guys to have nukes is a bad thing? Maybe being regional shit disturbers isn't a good career choice. Maybe making a deal with Trump is the best way forward. I am sure some are thinking about that now.
                      Last edited by jazz; Jan 8, 2020, 20:29.

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                        #23
                        Originally posted by jazz View Post
                        This is really a testament to how messed up some of these armed countries are.

                        The reports coming in is Iran ordered its military to attack this US base, they had precision missles they proceeded to launch which missed the base entirely and landed on a deserted beach. Those soldiers got so spooked about a retaliation that they abandoned the operation and ran off mid operation.

                        Tehran had itself so worked up after the funeral and statements from its leader proceeded to turn its missile defenses on to max and took out a civilian jet taking off from its own airport filled with its own people. These are mostly dual passport Iranians Canadians.

                        And somehow not wanting these guys to have nukes is a bad thing? Maybe being regional shit disturbers isn't a good career choice. Maybe making a deal with Trump is the best way forward. I am sure some are thinking about that now.
                        The ship isn’t that tight you’re saying? I’m with you there. You wonder really how many Iranians want to keep up with this bs. I doubted Trump but damnit he called their bluff.

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                          #24
                          Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
                          The ship isn’t that tight you’re saying? I’m with you there. You wonder really how many Iranians want to keep up with this bs. I doubted Trump but damnit he called their bluff.
                          Trump killed one little general in a absolute precision strike. Iran retaliated by killing 225 of its own people. 50 stampeded to death during the funeral, 176 shot out of the sky.

                          Have a military and toys is one thing, being able to wield it effectively is another. Having leadership to coordinate it all is another world all together.

                          I bet all these countries, Iran Syria, NK are paper tigers. Even Russia and China would probably roll pretty fast without nukes. There is no more battle hardy technological advanced military on the planet that the US.

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