Lets Do This Then

[dmlfarmer]

This isn't the crusades anymore. Without the US or NATO as an ally willing to lay devastation to the region, Israel faces some severe challenges.

First they have a growing muslim minority right in their population. That will be their first challenge. You have proxies right on their doorstep and you have growing regional powers like Turkey who has a comparable army. When you start nuking muslims by the millions the blowback is going to be pretty swift and without the US in there, not sure how Israel could survive a wave like that. The first attack might be a suitcase nuke in Tel Aviv.

Jazz you predict that: "Israel probably ceases to exist at some point" Given this view, what does Israel have to lose if their future is becoming refugees once more, this time back in the EU or Russia, or even the US. As a nuclear nation, they have the power themselves to lay devastation to the entire region without any US backing. Go there and see for yourself the love these people have for their country and then tell me 15,000,000 people will be peacefully displaced from lands they consider theirs, holy, and promised to them by the world and God.

[furrowtickler]

Wow. You are really naïve. You think Israel, which likely has 80 nuclear bombs, is going to disappear without a fight? Do you really think the Jews or Christians are any more willing than Muslims to give up their holiest site on the planet?

Nor do nuclear bombs need to be delivered ballisticly. The only two atomic bombs actually used in battle were dropped from a plane, not by missile. Or they could simply be loaded on a truck or boat for delivery to a port or city. Miniaturization is not a requirement. The technology for building the actual bomb is readily available, if is obtaining the highly refined fissionable material that is the major stumbling block and is what the treaty with Iran attempted to prevent. Now that treaty is gone, Iran is already ramping up refinement to 20% - still a long way from bomb grade but good enough for a dirty bomb.

And you ignore the fact that NK has already exploded nuclear devices and continues to stockpile bomb material and is back testing missiles. NK played Trump like a fiddle and Iran's response has already resulted in Trump backing down.

NK has no oil

[shtferbrains]

If your ready to grind though about 45 minutes of reading you might end up realizing how little we know about the middle east. Basic recap of Qassem Suleimani and how he mastered statecraft.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/09/30/the-shadow-commander https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/09/30/the-shadow-commander

Makes you realize yet again what a bunch of bobble heads MSM expect their reporters to be.

I actually picked up this link from a CBC reporters twitter feed.

She was much more restrained in her editor approved report.

Have to say I found this very scary how long this guy was around. He made Bin Ladin look like a boy scout.

Have to remember this was written in 2013.

[jazz]

Well the real enemy of the people is at it again, the MSM has put an endless spin on this making it all trumps fault.

If he wouldnt have been so mad about being impeached he wouldnt have killed those terrorists targeting American contractors, then causing the pure as snow Iranians to attack the embassy then having to defend it, then killing a commander then causing a stampede at the funeral, and the Alyatolla calling for revenge then turning the Tehran SAMs to target civilian aircraft causing 176 people to be killed.

All of it, every bit is 100% Trumps fault.

Oh and here is a funny little tidbit. Our Iranian friends built a fake carrier to practice bomb. Geez aren't they just the cutest little devils.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/it-looks-like-iran-is-ready-to-start-bombing-its-fake-aircraft-carrier-again/ar-BBYNyJ7?ocid=spartanntp It looks like Iran is ready to start bombing its fake aircraft carrier again

[dmlfarmer]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/world/middleeast/trump-iran-yemen.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share. Breaking news, US targeted second Iranian at same time but missed in Yemen

[TASFarms]

Well the real enemy of the people is at it again, the MSM has put an endless spin on this making it all trumps fault.

If he wouldnt have been so mad about being impeached he wouldnt have killed those terrorists targeting American contractors, then causing the pure as snow Iranians to attack the embassy then having to defend it, then killing a commander then causing a stampede at the funeral, and the Alyatolla calling for revenge then turning the Tehran SAMs to target civilian aircraft causing 176 people to be killed.

All of it, every bit is 100% Trumps fault.

Oh and here is a funny little tidbit. Our Iranian friends built a fake carrier to practice bomb. Geez aren't they just the cutest little devils.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/it-looks-like-iran-is-ready-to-start-bombing-its-fake-aircraft-carrier-again/ar-BBYNyJ7?ocid=spartanntp It looks like Iran is ready to start bombing its fake aircraft carrier again

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That pic must be old. The pic on google earth has some damage on it.



https://maps.apple.com/?ll=27.133876,56.196903&q=Marked%20Location&_ext=E iQpwZuRuEUiO0AxYoJwGjQZTEA5wZuRuEUiO0BBYoJwGjQZTEA %3D&t=k

[TSIPP]

Is skippy going to whip out his big cf-18 and teach Iran a lesson, should do a flyby bringing the Auz ones home.