Morris looks in trouble

[SASKFARMER]

Moodys has sold to Robertson?

[LEP]

Moodys has sold to Robertson?

Now that wouldn’t surprise me. They have been on a slow death for years. Run by the wizards at PFM in Regina.

[BreadWinner]

It will be terrible if the Morris, Bourgault, seedmaster, and seedhawk companies start to go under. The farmers that own their product will have fence row junk if they cant get support or parts. None of these companies are immune to the reality of overpriced product and slowing sales. We own 2 morris drills only a couple years old and what can we do? We can’t trade because they are worthless now that there is the smell of bankruptcy problems in the air. Who says the other manufacturers are not next? Bourgault had huge layoffs less than a year ago and sales people say nobody is buying. Farmers may be forced to buy Deere or Case drills because the others are gone. Its not a good situation for the Ag industry, bottom line is that farmers will pay dearly if these companies go under.

[SASKFARMER]

Seed Hawk is already owned by an overseas company.

[bigzee]

It will be terrible if the Morris, Bourgault, seedmaster, and seedhawk companies start to go under. The farmers that own their product will have fence row junk if they cant get support or parts. None of these companies are immune to the reality of overpriced product and slowing sales. We own 2 morris drills only a couple years old and what can we do? We can’t trade because they are worthless now that there is the smell of bankruptcy problems in the air. Who says the other manufacturers are not next? Bourgault had huge layoffs less than a year ago and sales people say nobody is buying. Farmers may be forced to buy Deere or Case drills because the others are gone. Its not a good situation for the Ag industry, bottom line is that farmers will pay dearly if these companies go under.

Let them all take a long cold bath.
We have to do things to survive it’s about time they did the same.

[bucket]

It will be terrible if the Morris, Bourgault, seedmaster, and seedhawk companies start to go under. The farmers that own their product will have fence row junk if they cant get support or parts. None of these companies are immune to the reality of overpriced product and slowing sales. We own 2 morris drills only a couple years old and what can we do? We can’t trade because they are worthless now that there is the smell of bankruptcy problems in the air. Who says the other manufacturers are not next? Bourgault had huge layoffs less than a year ago and sales people say nobody is buying. Farmers may be forced to buy Deere or Case drills because the others are gone. Its not a good situation for the Ag industry, bottom line is that farmers will pay dearly if these companies go under.

I think Morris would be a better fit for a major like deere or case as opposed to the conservapak system that deere bought...

[MBgrower]

I think Morris would be a better fit for a major like deere or case as opposed to the conservapak system that deere bought...

Bourgault might have enough market share that Case, Jd, Adco might want to buy them at 10 cents on the dollar, but i'm not sure about the other small drill manufacturers. This could be a catch-22 situation, farmers may stop buying drills from these small manufacturers in fear of them going out of business,and instead buying from only the big 'mainstream' companies.

tough time ahead indeed for these companies.

[BreadWinner]

Bigzee, Im not arguing that these companies are charging to much for new drills or parts. But what if all of them go bankrupt. Used drills will not exist if they don’t sell new ones. What kind of drill do you have? Are you worried about sourcing parts if your drill company disappears?

[bigzee]

Bigzee, Im not arguing that these companies are charging to much for new drills or parts. But what if all of them go bankrupt. Used drills will not exist if they don’t sell new ones. What kind of drill do you have? Are you worried about sourcing parts if your drill company disappears?

Seedhawk!
I can get hoses anywhere, putting on semi pneumatic tires on which I don’t buy from the company, buy bearings anywhere, have gone to Dutch openers. Can buy seal kits for cylinders anywhere. Use a Bourgault tank.
I get your point about no drills existing if more manufacturers go tits up, but maybe they should sit down like we do and come up with a strategy of maybe selling more for less. This seems to be what we do all the time.
This winter I’m spending around 30k on maintenance, little over half that is a complete new blockage system. Sure beats the 300k they wanted for a new drill.

[bucket]

Seedhawk!
I can get hoses anywhere, putting on semi pneumatic tires on which I don’t buy from the company, buy bearings anywhere, have gone to Dutch openers. Can buy seal kits for cylinders anywhere. Use a Bourgault tank.
I get your point about no drills existing if more manufacturers go tits up, but maybe they should sit down like we do and come up with a strategy of maybe selling more for less. This seems to be what we do all the time.
This winter I’m spending around 30k on maintenance, little over half that is a complete new blockage system. Sure beats the 300k they wanted for a new drill.

But most guys look at the 30k as a lease payment for a new drill......and that might be part of the problem as well...

A cultivator by replacing shovels would last years and that's with 4 or 5 passes a year....

Drills go once over and are garbage in three??????

[Guest]

there are certain parts like morris edge on shanks , wonder if anyone else makes them ? we break 2 or 3 a year
guess we are part of the problem , still using a 15 year old maxim

[LEP]

It's a 15 mile drive from town to the farm. One day in seeding I was driving it and realized all the drills between town and the farm were bourgault. They will be fine when they adjust to the longer trade periods.

Morris was the obvious one, perhaps seedmaster or case drills next. Not saying Case corp. But no one has bought a flexicoil or case in this area in YEARS. At one time there were many flexicoils.