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    #37
    “ but maybe they should sit down like we do and come up with a strategy of maybe selling more for less. This seems to be what we do all the time.”
    Im not sure how your farm works we wouldn’t be around for very long if we used this strategy. Realistically they will have to sell less for more, and that means parts will be going up. New drills aren’t selling so making money on parts will be the focus. Not unlike Deere or Case with insane parts prices. On the new side the Quantum will be tossed because the sticker price is too high. There will be some Morris bargains at the spring sales, we may have to buy a couple for parts.

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      #38
      Only parts replaced on my 5710 in the 10 yrs I have owned it are 2 shanks, air hoses and a couple tires.

      Virtually maintenance free.

      ESN was the technology I adopted. Kept those single shoot drills in the field indefinately.

      When you see a $25k drill grow a crop as good as a $500k one, somebody in the marketing dept must have raised an eyebrow? No?

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        #39
        Originally posted by jazz View Post
        Only parts replaced on my 5710 in the 10 yrs I have owned it are 2 shanks, air hoses and a couple tires.

        Virtually maintenance free.

        ESN was the technology I adopted. Kept those single shoot drills in the field indefinately.

        When you see a $25k drill grow a crop as good as a $500k one, somebody in the marketing dept must have raised an eyebrow? No?
        We are similar, 21 crops, hoses once, 2 shanks broke on rocks, center duals. 10 years on 3" carbide openers. No hyd leaks or welding. Yes 1/20 the price, EXTREMELY simple, NO moving parts, same result, thank you to those building obsolescence! Change for sake of change etc...

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          #40
          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          Only parts replaced on my 5710 in the 10 yrs I have owned it are 2 shanks, air hoses and a couple tires.

          Virtually maintenance free.

          ESN was the technology I adopted. Kept those single shoot drills in the field indefinately.

          When you see a $25k drill grow a crop as good as a $500k one, somebody in the marketing dept must have raised an eyebrow? No?
          I will probably die still owning a 5710. I think without the fertilizer damage (rust) a cart would likely last forever too.

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            #41
            Any one use one of these Click image for larger version

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              #42
              Originally posted by SASKFARMER View Post
              Any one use one of these [ATTACH]5471[/ATTACH]
              I don’t but enough around this area. It’s bourgault, Deere, and some hawks and masters. Does new holland still sell a drill? 🤪

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                #43
                Originally posted by SASKFARMER View Post
                Any one use one of these [ATTACH]5471[/ATTACH]
                Two JD conservapaks seed the field across the road from me the past number of years. Seem to produce good crops. Just wonder what yield penalty they get from narrow row 12" spacing in cereals? There are a number of those rigs in this area.

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                  #44
                  Independent openers, its all Bourgalt around here. They destroyed that market. No seedhawks or seedmasters.

                  But shank drills, still a good mix around. Bourgaults, JD, Case, Concorde, Flexicoil, they are all very similar.

                  Wonder how ol Jimmy Pattison is making out with his big ag consolidation take over.

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                    #45
                    Originally posted by jazz View Post
                    Only parts replaced on my 5710 in the 10 yrs I have owned it are 2 shanks, air hoses and a couple tires.

                    Virtually maintenance free.

                    ESN was the technology I adopted. Kept those single shoot drills in the field indefinately.

                    When you see a $25k drill grow a crop as good as a $500k one, somebody in the marketing dept must have raised an eyebrow? No?
                    Says the guy who started a thread a few weeks ago about how shitty his canola crop came up this year 🤦*♂️

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                      #46
                      No offense boys, but canola prices could drop another buck or two if they follow the route Minneapolis wheat did on testing the 06-07 low. Maybe that's what we need to put the pucker factor into the manufacturers? Right to the point they all break like the 80's before this thing hooks hard up. I wish no harm on anyone but it's a possibility, just saying.

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                        #47
                        Originally posted by ajl View Post
                        Two JD conservapaks seed the field across the road from me the past number of years. Seem to produce good crops. Just wonder what yield penalty they get from narrow row 12" spacing in cereals? There are a number of those rigs in this area.
                        AJL, Can you explain the yield penalty in cereals comment? 12” is standard spacing around here. Anything wider almost unheard of, and 10” spacing fairly common. 7.5” spacing on some disc drills too.

                        All wheat studies I have seen find yield benefit at sub 12” spacing with 6-8” being the best.

                        Always trying to be the best

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                          #48
                          Originally posted by Simpleton View Post
                          Says the guy who started a thread a few weeks ago about how shitty his canola crop came up this year 🤦*♂️
                          That's right, same as the guy with the paralink beside me - funny what 2 months without any rain will do to all that expensive tech. Still made 60 bu a month late.

                          And I still didn't have a drill payment to make this fall.

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