Social Mobility Index

[chuckChuck]

Some of the best ranked places to live in the world are also the most prosperous, but the prosperity is shared more equally. Switzerland, Norway come to mind.

US politics is very relative to an agriculture forum because US trade and agriculture policy directly affects Canadian farmers.

Trump and the Republicans have decided that protectionism is better that free trade and they don't care if Canadian farmers are hurt.

Trumps request for Meng Wanzhou's arrest in Canada put Canada between a rock and a hard place. She and Canada are just pawns in Trump's trade war with China. And farmers are just collateral damage.

The Canada haters here on Agriville are mostly a bunch of hyper partisan extremists who will never be happy no matter whether they live in the US or Canada.

Fortunately the CPC has no room for such negative extremist nonsense.

[sumdumguy]

Just as families who don’t get along are self-destroying, Canada is doing same. The East hates the West and the West is supposed to accept their fate with a smile on their faces. What a mockery this great nation has become!

[chuckChuck]

Western leaders often like to play up the east west divide for political gain. They have been doing it for decades.

Its especially easy to do when commodity prices fall and the resource and ag sector falls on harder times. It must be a politicians fault! Even though oil prices started to fall while Harper was in power.

Ontario and Quebec Conservatives have similar views to western Conservatives.

As Doug Ford said "it is just politics"

[jazz]

Lets deconstruct that index.

Heath, all the medical breakthroughs and research are discovered and pioneered in the US.

Education, best universities and tech schools on the planet all in the US

Technology, every high tech company worth talking about domiciled in US

Work, US unemployment half of any other country on that list. GDP a full point above all of them too.

Protection, well US military wins that hands down.

Institutions, after seeing the dictatorship at work here in Canada and the EU and China, is there any system on the planet better than the US? Not a chance. Power distributed right to the local level. Congress checks the president, state level election of reps, local circuit courts can over turn presidential legislation, the reviews and scrutiny and checks on power are stunning.

Norway? Switzerland? Give me a fing break.

[Guest]

Western leaders often like to play up the east west divide for political gain. They have been doing it for decades.

Its especially easy to do when commodity prices fall and the resource and ag sector falls on harder times. It must be a politicians fault! Even though oil prices started to fall while Harper was in power.

Ontario and Quebec Conservatives have similar views to western Conservatives.

As Doug Ford said "it is just politics"

But , but ... no wonder quebec is pissed off
Alberta has been collecting stabilization everyyear since inception
You really cant make the connection????

[Guest]

Lets deconstruct that index.

Heath, all the medical breakthroughs and research are discovered and pioneered in the US.

Education, best universities and tech schools on the planet all in the US

Technology, every high tech company worth talking about domiciled in US

Work, US unemployment half of any other country on that list. GDP a full point above all of them too.

Protection, well US military wins that hands down.

Institutions, after seeing the dictatorship at work here in Canada and the EU and China, is there any system on the planet better than the US? Not a chance. Power distributed right to the local level. Congress checks the president, state level election of reps, local circuit courts can over turn presidential legislation, the reviews and scrutiny and checks on power are stunning.

Norway? Switzerland? Give me a fing break.

But you are forgetting about greta
Switzerland produced that wonder

[chuckChuck]

According to the World Bank and the OECD both Switzerland and Norway have much higher per capita GDP than the US by about $20,000 USD each.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=NO-NZ-CA-US-DE-CH-JP https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=NO-NZ-CA-US-DE-CH-JP

[chuckChuck]

Greta is from Sweden. Gore is from the US. Whats your point?

[samhill]

I like Canada the country, but our western non representation in government is unacceptable.
The USA is the greatest country I believe, but I know little of Scotland where I might consider. Switzerland I know a little of, but very difficult to move there.
Trump is disparaged by much of the media, and lately in the Washington Post article by Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker, as Trump criticizes his military commanders for US military presence throughout the world, which costs America trillions of dollars, and the U.N. and NATO pay very little.
The generals of course favour their participation as it makes them important. Trump believes other countries should pony up, and the article makes him out to be ignorant and foolish, and despised by the military leaders.
Money is important to Trump, I tend to agree.

[chuckChuck]

There are lots of examples of Republican states working hard to actively de register and discourage poor minority voters who will mostly vote democratic.

The judicial system is very politicized.

Religion plays a big role in US politics. The christian fundamentalists want to impose their numerous and particular religious values on everyone.

Big money rules in US politics and the regular folks just get to go along for the ride.

[jazz]

Norways the richest by an accounting trick and socialism. State ownership of resources.

“One reason that we score so high can be that (Norway’s) oil wealth is counted two times,” Almås told NRK, both as a resource and as a factor responsible for relatively high incomes. She also cautioned that “in other countries with a lots of oil, but where the resource is privately owned without such a high degree of taxation as in Norway, oil resources won’t influence personal income to such a degree.”

Oil is owned by the state, taxed the shit out of it and redistributed to the people.

Not comparable with the US or Canada.

[chuckChuck]

Don't forget they have a trillion dollar heritage fund from oil to set them up for many generations to come.

Whats your excuse for Switzerland?