Flu

[helmsdale]

Over a 3 day average not including today, % increase in (cases) and [deaths] for a few countries:

Italy: (4.13%) / [5.67%]
Spain: (7.51%) / [9.79%]
Germany: (8.21%) / [18.85%]
France: (7.30%) / [22.95%]-death number is anomalous as it included a significant # of deaths that had not been previously counted. number is trending around 17-19%
Switzerland: (6.82%) / [16.09%]
UK: (14.93%) / [26.36%]
US: (13.52%) / [20.76%]
Canada: (13.44%) / [23.24%]

[helmsdale]

Updated numbers on cases / 1M population:

Spain: 2668
Switzerland: 2343
Italy: 2061
Belgium: 1590
Austria: 1308
France: 1259
Germany: 1100
Portugal: 1032
Norway: 1024
Netherlands: 970
USA: 887
Israel: 877
Ireland: 865
Denmark: 704
Sweden: 638
UK: 617
Canada: 342
Finland: 340
Australia: 218
New Zealand: 197
Greece: 161

[helmsdale]

Updated #'s on deaths / 1M population

Italy: 254
Spain: 251
Belgium: 111
France: 100
Netherlands: 96
Switzerland: 74
UK: 64
Sweden: 37
Denmark: 28
Portugal: 26
USA: 24
Ireland: 24
Austria: 21
Germany: 16
Norway: 11
Greece: 7
Canada: 6
Israel: 5
Finland: 5
Australia: 1
New Zealand: 0.2

[malleefarmer]

Interesting figures NZ had harshest and quickest lockdown border closure, flight bans in western world then we followed suit maybe 5 days later.

Seems by those figures were doing ok?

Could be geographic wide open spaces could be climatic to a degree pardon the pun.

Most cases in aust are nsw most populace state.

Sad a 5 yr old passed on in UK.

Lots o logical debate on here and illogical I must add.

Not a crime to change your mind or opinion which is rare as rocking horse shit on agriville.

But initially I thought the idea of herd immunity in uk was a measured logical control option, I posted about it way back when some agreed with principle some disagreed.

Well I was wrong could be called a abject failure in fact.

Last comment both sides of the argument on agriville none of us know jack shit or his brother John but best to err on side of caution logic suggests ou tough measures in oz MAY be working as in other countries.

If I was a person who just become unemployed because of cv19 with no idea when normality will resume or if I will have a job to go back might view things way differently.

[Guest]

Yes no better place to be for me than a Sask farm
Very fortunate to be right here right now!

[furrowtickler]

Interesting figures NZ had harshest and quickest lockdown border closure, flight bans in western world then we followed suit maybe 5 days later.

Seems by those figures were doing ok?

Could be geographic wide open spaces could be climatic to a degree pardon the pun.

Most cases in aust are nsw most populace state.

Sad a 5 yr old passed on in UK.

Lots o logical debate on here and illogical I must add.

Not a crime to change your mind or opinion which is rare as rocking horse shit on agriville.

But initially I thought the idea of herd immunity in uk was a measured logical control option, I posted about it way back when some agreed with principle some disagreed.

Well I was wrong could be called a abject failure in fact.

Last comment both sides of the argument on agriville none of us know jack shit or his brother John but best to err on side of caution logic suggests ou tough measures in oz MAY be working as in other countries.

If I was a person who just become unemployed because of cv19 with no idea when normality will resume or if I will have a job to go back might view things way differently.

Good post .
Very interesting to see NZ numbers and quick reactions to ban flights and close boarders . North America left the barn doors open too long.
My oldest brother lost his job , at 53 , his future looks bleak. We will be able to use his help for a few months this spring , we don’t run a big farm with any full time people , but after that it looks grim for him. We will do what we can but there is a ton of jobs being lost weekly in this area. Some jobs will not come back for a very long time.
Will be interesting to watch how NZ holds out and how much their economy is affected .

[malleefarmer]

Our state has 407 cases as of this morning.

Here’s the clincher 85% have come from cruise liner either tourists coming in and spreading it or locals disembarking. Another 4% from airport.

Remainder people to people transmission since.

So if we had harder border restrictions probably be even less.

Ps our population is almost 1.8 million. 78% main city and environs then another 10% in regional cities or large towns meaning 15 thousand or more.

Demographics suggest we’re the state that should have lowest cv19 rate

[malleefarmer]

Good post .
Very interesting to see NZ numbers and quick reactions to ban flights and close boarders . North America left the barn doors open too long.
My oldest brother lost his job , at 53 , his future looks bleak. We will be able to use his help for a few months this spring , we don’t run a big farm with any full time people , but after that it looks grim for him. We will do what we can but there is a ton of jobs being lost weekly in this area. Some jobs will not come back for a very long time.
Will be interesting to watch how NZ holds out and how much their economy is affected .

NZ Aust both export based economies may be 60% but main difference NZ ag products and fishing and population 4.5 million were as Australia similar with ag but has gas minerals.

Issues is can’t export anything at present.

We export heaps to China but there ports are only partially open. And if anyone on here studies pandemics for noteworthy sources it’s not unusual for a second wave to occur sometime after initial outbreak is waiting. If China get another second wave logic suggests rest of world will then were up shite without a paddle o a canoe for that fact.

Sooner they fin a viable vaccine cure antidote the better months away yet it seems.

The anti Vaxxer crowd have gone eerily quite

Try not to get into bs debates about cv19 hopefully ain’t stirred anyone up.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Interestingly, there has apparently been a shortage of Ivermectin this winter. And many complaints about its effectiveness, causing many to redo, or use another product, which are also now back ordered( or were).

Is this just the inevitable result of over use and abuse, resulting in resistance, leading to more applications, and therefore to shortages? Or is the shortage due to it already being rerouted to human use earlier this winter? Maybe the base chemical is made in China with all the rest, and was not quite up to standard as some was redirected to human use, so we got watered down version? Is every batch tested?

I'm sure most of us have breathed, ingested, or absorbed more than our fair share. We did our cows just about the time this was getting to be newsworthy, wonder if it has any preventative effect, or only curative?

[malleefarmer]

Interestingly, there has apparently been a shortage of Ivermectin this winter. And many complaints about its effectiveness, causing many to redo, or use another product, which are also now back ordered( or were).

Is this just the inevitable result of over use and abuse, resulting in resistance, leading to more applications, and therefore to shortages? Or is the shortage due to it already being rerouted to human use earlier this winter? Maybe the base chemical is made in China with all the rest, and was not quite up to standard as some was redirected to human use, so we got watered down version? Is every batch tested?

I'm sure most of us have breathed, ingested, or absorbed more than our fair share. We did our cows just about the time this was getting to be newsworthy, wonder if it has any preventative effect, or only curative?

Ivermectin is not really used here a lot for resistance reasons on sheep. Next generation drenches superseded ivermectin hmmm maybe 10/12 years ago. But sure your right though base chemical comes from China and is reconstituted in Canada of Australia were ever