Flu

[farmaholic]

If ya go back farma I was big believer in herd immunity changed my view 180 degrees after about 10 days.
See Boris Johnson going to hospital some suggesting bit of a cover up he is way crooked than letting on

I try to keep out of radical debate on agriville farma look for common sense stuff on both sides of argument.

China lying Italy lying USA lying Spain lying Iran lying world health lying who the eff has any idea. Who know who is fibbing

I hope my point of view doesn't come across as too dramatic, radical, or alarmist.

If I knew this thing wouldn't kill me, I would just as well like to contract it, recover and hopefully have full immunity. I like to think I am strong and healthy enough to fight it but you never know! Best I try to prevent catching and spreading it....

[bobofthenorth]

Saskatchewan is doing reasonable, Saskatoon region is the worst area.
1 person currently in ICU

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What brain dead bureaucrap drew that map? In what universe does that "Saskatoon" or "Regina" region make any sense. Apparently I live in the portion of the "Centre" region that doesn't have any cases but there's fairly reliable rumours to the contrary locally. Right now any information coming from any level of government in any country should be regarded with a lot of suspicion or even outright mistrust.

[malleefarmer]

Bit of a worry.

"Cardiac experts are coming to believe the COVID-19 virus can infect the heart muscle. An initial study found cardiac damage in as many as 1 in 5 patients, leading to heart failure and death even among those who show NO SIGNS of respiratory distress. These deaths are not listed as COVID-19”

[TOM4CWB]

Bit of a worry.

"Cardiac experts are coming to believe the COVID-19 virus can infect the heart muscle. An initial study found cardiac damage in as many as 1 in 5 patients, leading to heart failure and death even among those who show NO SIGNS of respiratory distress. These deaths are not listed as COVID-19”

Thanks Mallee;
From Scientific American:

"That work has already resulted in changes in the way hospitals deal with the cardiac implications of COVID-19. Doctors have found that the infection can mimic a heart attack. They have taken patients to the cardiac catheterization lab to clear a suspected blockage, only to find the patient wasn’t really experiencing a heart attack but had COVID-19.
For years, hospitals have rushed suspected heart attack patients directly to the catheterization lab, bypassing the emergency room, in an effort to shorten the time from when the patient enters the door to when doctors can clear the blockage with a balloon. Door-to-balloon time had become an important measure of how well hospitals treat heart attacks.
“We’re taking a step back from that now and thinking about having patients brought to the emergency department so they can get evaluated briefly, so that we could determine: Is this somebody who’s really at high risk for COVID-19?” Parikh said. “And is this manifestation that we’re calling a heart attack really a heart attack?”
New protocols now include bringing in a cardiologist and getting an EKG or an ultrasound to confirm a blockage.
“We’re doing that in large measure to protect the patient from what would be an otherwise unnecessary procedure,” Parikh said, “But also to help us decide which sort of level of personal protective equipment we would employ in the cath lab.”
Sorting out how the virus affects the heart should help doctors determine which therapies to pursue to keep patients alive.
Jorde said that after COVID-19 patients recover, they could have long-term effects from such heart damage. But, he said, treatments exist for various forms of heart damage that should be effective once the viral infection has cleared.
Still, that could require another wave of widespread health care demands after the pandemic has calmed.
Kaiser Health News (KHN) is a nonprofit news service covering health issues. It is an editorially independent program of the Kaiser Family Foundation that is not affiliated with Kaiser Permanente."

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-covid-19-may-damage-your-heart#Risk-much-higher-for-preexisting-heart-conditions

Corvid-19 is truly a plague of 'biblical proportions"... Great King Jesus, we pray you help us to trust in you; May you teach us to Love each other as we pray for those with the Corvid-19 Flu. God have mercy on us... we pray for your grace and salvation Jesus.

[dmlfarmer]

I think this thing will circle the globe as many times that is needed until herd immunity is achieved or an effective vaccine is developed.
You can't stop this, only hope to slow it down or manage it's spread.
Without an effective vaccine, when things quiet down people will have a false sense of security and try to go about their life in a normal way..... let their guard down only to find it flare up again.

When they talk about flattening the curve, I bet nearly as many people will die in the flattened curve as will if it was to spread at a faster pace. In a flattened curve, we may be able to save some high risk people because personnel and equipment will be available to treat them and hopefully they will learn treatment therapies that will save more lives.... even if a vaccine isn't on the near horizon.

Everyone continues to wait for and expect a vaccine, but is this a realistic expectation. SARS happened in 2002-03 and there is still no publicly available vaccine for SARS. Yes, there were some promising candidates, but none with both the effectiveness and safety to put into production. SARS and Covid-19 are closely related so to think there will be a quick vaccine for Covid-19 is questionable

[dmlfarmer]

Dunno if you guys have all the nutter suggesting 5g mobile phone network is spreading cv19.

Another more humourous theory is it coincided with Burger King releasing vegan burgers lol

Another conspiracy theory now is that Covid-19 is a global government conspiracy concocted at a UN meeting of all world government leaders last fall to cover up the doomsday comet that is going to hit earth in a few weeks. The government wanted to have everyone to have some family time before we are all killed by that comet. Who in their right mind thinks up this crap and spreads it? And then I read agriville and question answered.

[farmaholic]

Everyone continues to wait for and expect a vaccine, but is this a realistic expectation. SARS happened in 2002-03 and there is still no publicly available vaccine for SARS. Yes, there were some promising candidates, but none with both the effectiveness and safety to put into production. SARS and Covid-19 are closely related so to think there will be a quick vaccine for Covid-19 is questionable

I'm not an infectious disease micro biologist but couldn't antibodies from recovered patients be used to help develop a vaccine. That would be too simple and I'm sure the people who are working towards an effective vaccine are already studying those antibodies.

[wd9]

I'm not an infectious disease micro biologist but couldn't antibodies from recovered patients be used to help develop a vaccine. That would be too simple and I'm sure the people who are working towards an effective vaccine are already studying those antibodies.

yup, you take the blood from a patient who has recovered, separate the plasma, and use that. Sometimes works, sometimes not but they are testing. I had 26 blood transfusions - quite familiar with this lol.

If you want to search the web for it, its called convalescent-plasma therapy.

[malleefarmer]

My trucker delivered fert yesterday.

Had a funeral day before our funerals limited to 10 “guests” any his uncle was there.

Uncle is a orthopedic surgeon hips knees shoulders etc, made comment to his nephew jokingly I’m on unemployment list almost, he’s only allowed to do emergency surgery, anyone who had scheduled operations has to wait till cv19 blows over. It’s affecting everyone in all walks of life.

[furrowtickler]

My trucker delivered fert yesterday.

Had a funeral day before our funerals limited to 10 “guests” any his uncle was there.

Uncle is a orthopedic surgeon hips knees shoulders etc, made comment to his nephew jokingly I’m on unemployment list almost, he’s only allowed to do emergency surgery, anyone who had scheduled operations has to wait till cv19 blows over. It’s affecting everyone in all walks of life.

Yup , some very close friends just had to try to fly to Toronto today . Their son went into ICU and in induced coma, not Covid related.
They may not get to see him at all due to restrictions in place . Which are necessary but still Sad situation.
Will affect nearly everyone in one way or the other.