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[AlbertaFarmer5]

The world doesn't end at Canada's borders.

Total world electricity from hydro is 16%.
All other renewables amount 10.8%.
Fossil Fuels are still producing the majority of world wide electricity, primarily coal.
And the radical greens are against hydro. It is not counted as a renewable in many circles. They have proposed draining hydro dams and filling them with solar panels.

[chuckChuck]

And just like how the electric vehicles are powered by a primarily fossil fuel electric grid, the hydrogen comes almost exclusively from fossil fuels as well.

if you look at the chart only about 18% of electricity in Canada comes from fossil fuels.

This is going to be a massive change as we electrify a lot of transportation.

How and when this will all be accomplished is not clear. But it certainly looks like that it is going ahead whether you think it is feasible or not.

[jazz]

This is going to be a massive change as we electrify a lot of transportation.

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Right and thats why I bought natural gas. Its the only fuel we have to power this next level of insanity.

Its going to take 100 yrs to replace the combustion engine fleet. I am sure the people in India are just chomping at the bit to get a $100K car. LOL

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Chuck, since you keep counting hydro as renewable, and thinking that it can be scaled up to meet multiplying demand, why does your NFU oppose hydro development such as site C?

Are there any potential hydro projects you are in favour of?

How much more hydro potential does Canada have left that is close enough to demand to be feasible, and will the NFU be in favour of developing any of those? Or oppose any and all, while simultaneously insisting we end fossil fuels?

[Guest]

tough questions , how much do you wanna bet chuck will disappear?

[jazz]

tough questions , how much do you wanna bet chuck will disappear?

All the EV enthusiasts disappear when the tough questions are asked.

If anyone has google, go look how many new mines we will have to build. We will have to find more copper than has ever been found before. Cobalt will need to 10X. The grid based generation will need to 3X. The grid itself has to have new lines built and buried into every home.

The only solution is some sort of EV Hydrogen cell combo possibly supplement with roof top solar. Hydrogen will be shipped down as a blend in NG lines and extracted at destination. 10% hydrogen burns in any furnace as well.

Oh and Hydrogen wont be coming from electrolysis, it will be stripped off hydrocarbons with a combined capture process.

Ab has a rosy future ahead.

[ALBERTAFARMER4]

And just like how the electric vehicles are powered by a primarily fossil fuel electric grid, the hydrogen comes almost exclusively from fossil fuels as well.

Fair point. However I have the option to power an EV with Solar, Wind, Hydro, Nuclear, Gas, Coal, etc. I'm just curious to know why we say the grid can't handle BEV but think that hydrogen vehicles will ever get off the ground requiring 3.2 times as much energy to go the same distance.

You can not debate the efficiency of harnessing the sun bouncing off your roof and putting it directly into a BEV. This makes you self sufficient in the case of a state collapse.

[chuckChuck]

Chuck, since you keep counting hydro as renewable, and thinking that it can be scaled up to meet multiplying demand, why does your NFU oppose hydro development such as site C?

Are there any potential hydro projects you are in favour of?

How much more hydro potential does Canada have left that is close enough to demand to be feasible, and will the NFU be in favour of developing any of those? Or oppose any and all, while simultaneously insisting we end fossil fuels?

I am not opposed to hydro. But it has to be done carefully. Next question.

No doubt we will be using all types of generation sources as we wind down fossil energy sources.

Alberta is building lots of renewables. The Travers solar farm (465mw) is being built right now.

Solar and wind are part of the solution to reduce carbon emissions.

Read this on Ammonia Production from Renewables https://arena.gov.au/projects/ammonia-production-from-renewables/

[sumdumguy]

All this foofera to destroy the staff of life - carbon. Insanity at the helm.

[Guest]

I am not opposed to hydro. But it has to be done carefully. Next question.

No doubt we will be using all types of generation sources as we wind down fossil energy sources.

Alberta is building lots of renewables. The Travers solar farm (465mw) is being built right now.

Solar and wind are part of the solution to reduce carbon emissions.

Read this on Ammonia Production from Renewables https://arena.gov.au/projects/ammonia-production-from-renewables/

https://arena.gov.au/projects/ammonia-production-from-renewables/

interesting , chuck