Shorting Tesla

[Guest]

Up over 800% since the start of this thread

[Guest]

holy f u k

[shtferbrains]

Can any manufacturer supply 100,000 car today?

[TOM4CWB]

Can any manufacturer supply 100,000 car today?

Please excuse my french AGAIN...WSJ Reports:

Elon Musk Says Tesla Hasn’t Signed Contract With Hertz Despite Earlier Announcement
Shares of electric-vehicle maker slide after topping $1 trillion in market value in recent days
Elon Musk Welcomes Visitors to Tesla’s First Gigafactory in Europe


By Omar Abdel-Baqui, Alexander Gladstone and Nora Naughton
Updated Nov. 2, 2021 8:45 pm ET


It was a deal that Wall Street celebrated as a new model for the rental-car industry. Then with one bombshell tweet, Elon Musk cast Hertz Global Holdings Inc.’s deal to buy 100,000 electric cars from Tesla Inc. in doubt.

[the big wheel]

Only agriville contributors can’t seem to
Come to grips with the reality that
Whether it’s 2030 or 2040 or 2050 at
Some point it will be all electric vehicles
Or darn near. And it doesn’t matter what
Political party is in power it’s going ahead
Will it succeed once that happens who knows but
It is what’s going to happen. Lol

[TOM4CWB]

Only agriville contributors can’t seem to
Come to grips with the reality that
Whether it’s 2030 or 2040 or 2050 at
Some point it will be all electric vehicles
Or darn near. And it doesn’t matter what
Political party is in power it’s going ahead
Will it succeed once that happens who knows but
It is what’s going to happen. Lol

Big Wheel;

You have missed a big portion of the technology that uses hydrogen... directly, in a fuel cell, as nh3, there are oodles of options that are more efficient than battery powered transport equipment... especially in cold climates and heavy equipment/ships and aircraft.

If plant based agriculture increases carbon capture just 9%, the BBC reports we could sequester all the c02 out of the air added extra since the beginning of the industrial revolution.

https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p0b0mmcf/can-a-transfarmation-save-the-climate-

'Regenerative Agriculture' uses the 330B tons of C in the atmosphere plant systems... increasing the capture of carbon just 9 percent... removes c02 from our air.

How we efficiently use plant nutrients, N, and livestock is key to restoring a balance that is sustainable and life enhancing. There is no life without C!

Cheers

[ALBERTAFARMER4]

Big Wheel;

You have missed a big portion of the technology that uses hydrogen... directly, in a fuel cell, as nh3, there are oodles of options that are more efficient than battery powered transport equipment... especially in cold climates and heavy equipment/ships and aircraft.

If plant based agriculture increases carbon capture just 9%, the BBC reports we could sequester all the c02 out of the air added extra since the beginning of the industrial revolution.

https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p0b0mmcf/can-a-transfarmation-save-the-climate-

'Regenerative Agriculture' uses the 330B tons of C in the atmosphere plant systems... increasing the capture of carbon just 9 percent... removes c02 from our air.

How we efficiently use plant nutrients, N, and livestock is key to restoring a balance that is sustainable and life enhancing. There is no life without C!

Cheers

I agree, but can you show me the math that supports hydrogen fuel cell vehicles? I'm under the impression that a Toyota hydrogen car needs 3.2 times as much energy as a battery electric vehicle.
884Wh/mile for hydrogen (Toyota Mirai)
277Wh/mile for battery electric (Tesla model 3)

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I agree, but can you show me the math that supports hydrogen fuel cell vehicles? I'm under the impression that a Toyota hydrogen car needs 3.2 times as much energy as a battery electric vehicle.
884Wh/mile for hydrogen (Toyota Mirai)
277Wh/mile for battery electric (Tesla model 3)

And just like how the electric vehicles are powered by a primarily fossil fuel electric grid, the hydrogen comes almost exclusively from fossil fuels as well.

[chuckChuck]

About 60% of Canada's electricity come from hydro.

According to the International Hydropower Association, Canada is the world's fourth largest producer of hydroelectricity in the world in 2021 after the United States, Brazil, and China.[1] In 2014, Canada consumed the equivalent of 85.7 megatonnes worth of oil of hydroelectricity, 9.8% of worldwide hydroelectric consumption. Furthermore, hydroelectricity accounted for 25.7% of Canada's total energy consumption (37.3% of non-oil sources). It is the third-most consumed energy in Canada behind oil and natural gas (30.9% and 28.1% of total consumption, respectively).[2]

Some provinces and territories, such as British Columbia, Manitoba, Newfoundland and Labrador, Quebec and Yukon produce over 90% of their electricity from Hydro. All of the dams with large reservoirs were completed before 1990, since then most development has been run-of-the-river, both large and small. Natural Resources Canada calculates the current installed small hydro capacity is 3,400 MW, with an estimated potential of 15,000 MW.[3] A report on the future of hydroelectricity, suggests the remaining 78% potential will remain undeveloped up to 2050, citing a lack of public acceptance.[4] The widespread usage of hydroelectricity, including being incorporated into electric utility names such as Toronto Hydro or BC Hydro, has led to "hydro" being used in some parts of Canada to refer to electricity in general, regardless of source.[5][6]

As of 2019, Canada had 81 GW of installed hydroelectric capacity, producing about 400 TWh of electricity.[7]

[jazz]

60% of Canada's electricity come from hydro.

Where will the 3X electric grid expansion and generation come from? Where will the 3-10X REE and electric metals come from? What mines have been permitted? Where? When? Where will the thousands of miles of new high line be built? When will the street level upgrades be done?

Pipe dream. Talk about science illiterate.

NEVER going to happen.

At some point unicorns meet physics headon.