Money woes on Sask Farms.

[FarmJunkie]

And that stupid Fuuck in Ottawa will just give it to someone else that doesn’t deserve it or worse yet a company that can’t find their ass with 2 hands. We are so doomed with assholes like this in charge.

[grassfarmer]

Thank you fjlip. You certainly have some considerable drying costs and the carbon tax is a significant sum. Roughly speaking on your larger bill it appears to account for 17% of the total, on the smaller one around 15%.
SF3's implied that the carbon tax accounted for @33% of his bill which seemed a gross exaggeration.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Thank you fjlip. You certainly have some considerable drying costs and the carbon tax is a significant sum. Roughly speaking on your larger bill it appears to account for 17% of the total, on the smaller one around 15%.
SF3's implied that the carbon tax accounted for @33% of his bill which seemed a gross exaggeration.

Both of the bills fjlip posted indicate the CO2 tax is 39.2% of the cost of the gas.

[Maver]

"Wow are dealerships and suppliers dead."


Yup, JD salesman has been in our yard twice since harvest. Hasn't been here for a decade prior to that. BTO's must be running out of money or credit, if salesmen are slumming it with us STO's.

[Crestliner]

Thank you fjlip. You certainly have some considerable drying costs and the carbon tax is a significant sum. Roughly speaking on your larger bill it appears to account for 17% of the total, on the smaller one around 15%.
SF3's implied that the carbon tax accounted for @33% of his bill which seemed a gross exaggeration.

I screamed last summer on this forum before any drying was done and my first bill came from Saskenergy and saw the benefits and results of a dumb piece of **** Prime Minister and his Cabinet Blonde Bimbo Climate Barbie and the save the world tax...CARBON TAX ...what a joke and complete money confiscation. And you voted the asshole back in. The carbon tax is 40 % of the bill!!!

Geez Grass don’t you have your own gas bill....or is your farm still operating on coal for heat and coal oil for the lamps? Yah that power line and gas line was kinda of a fad thing...passed it by when the coal works so good eh? Any carbon tax on the coal? “SHOW ME YOUR BILL !!”

You left wing so called moral do gooders alway happy to confiscate the money of energetic hard working wealth creators. Communism and socialism has failed all over the world....now those failed dictators and followers who lost control all over the world and hate people having individual freedom and economic prosperity have cooked up the climate debacle...so they can scare the hell out of the kids and this kids parents into believing the world is burning up and take their money to correct fix it.

Climate alarmists are just the 2020 version of a “stick up”.......”GIVE ME YOUR MONEY OR YOUR LIFE”...what a joke.

Pure CONFISCATION....2020 Version of Communism!

[Hamloc]

Thank you fjlip. You certainly have some considerable drying costs and the carbon tax is a significant sum. Roughly speaking on your larger bill it appears to account for 17% of the total, on the smaller one around 15%.
SF3's implied that the carbon tax accounted for @33% of his bill which seemed a gross exaggeration.

A couple of things to keep in mind. Those bills are from 2019 and a carbon tax rate of $20 a tonne. January of 2022 that carbon tax rate will be $50 a tonne. That makes the carbon tax on the larger bill $17965.18 without GST. That is a hefty price tag. The theory is that a tax like the C02 tax imposed by the federal Liberal's will change our behaviour. So here is my question Grassfarmer will a grain farmer in the fall of 2022 if faced with the challenge of grain that is to wet to store leave it in the field or will he put it through his grain dryer and pay the carbon tax? How will the carbon tax change his behaviour? I believe he will dry his grain and pay the tax which means this C02 tax is nothing more than a cash grab!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

A couple of things to keep in mind. Those bills are from 2019 and a carbon tax rate of $20 a tonne. January of 2022 that carbon tax rate will be $50 a tonne. That makes the carbon tax on the larger bill $17965.18 without GST. That is a hefty price tag. The theory is that a tax like the C02 tax imposed by the federal Liberal's will change our behaviour. So here is my question Grassfarmer will a grain farmer in the fall of 2022 if faced with the challenge of grain that is to wet to store leave it in the field or will he put it through his grain dryer and pay the carbon tax? How will the carbon tax change his behaviour? I believe he will dry his grain and pay the tax which means this C02 tax is nothing more than a cash grab!

We already went through this with Chuck a couple of months back. If there is no viable alternative energy source, and not drying either results in spoiled grain in the bin, or lost under the snow, then the CO2 tax on grain drying is not going to serve it's supposed intended purpose of changing behaviours. It will be just an added tax.

Anad back to the bills. The direct CO2 tax on the bill is only part of the story. All the other charges on the bill, including the gas itself, transportation, infrastructure, administration etc, inevitably already include CO2 tax thanks to the energy consumed in performing those functions. So it is actually considerably higher than indicated.

[chuckChuck]

The opposition and governing parties in all three prairie provinces along with all farm groups are in favour of removing the carbon tax from drying fuels.

When the NDP in Saskatchewan offered to work together with the Sask Party on a bi partisan request the the Sask Party said no. They would rather play political games than to be seen working with the NDP.

[Guest]

Thank you fjlip. You certainly have some considerable drying costs and the carbon tax is a significant sum. Roughly speaking on your larger bill it appears to account for 17% of the total, on the smaller one around 15%.
SF3's implied that the carbon tax accounted for @33% of his bill which seemed a gross exaggeration.

For fu ck sake grass , you are smarter than that
It is only charged on the gas not the pipeline/infrastructure in the ground
Its 39.4 % of the gas supply cost

[Sodbuster]

Our biggest problem with the carbon tax is that our provincial government does not have their own carbon tax plan for SK. Instead we let Mr Dressup impose their version of carbon tax. Had our government had a plan in place they could of exempted carbon taxes on fuel bought by farmers or any other place they deemed worthy. Scott Moe looks good by fighting the tax but in reality it’s hurting us. I don’t support the carbon tax but SK has to have their own carbon tax plan and after that they can go back to fighting the Feds.

[Guest]

This entitled bunch of pricks need to go but there are no alternatives

[Guest]

and just follow this little example through on a bushel of feed grain
carbon tax charged on the fuel in the commercial truck delivering your seed and all fert
carbon tax is charged on all machinery manufacturing
its charged again on the commercial truck delivering chemical and all inputs, all power involved
then its charged on the drying of that grain , both gas and power
then it gets pelleted into feed at a mill which is hammered really hard for gas and power carbon tax and then again when it is loaded onto a commercial truck where it is all downloaded to the poor ****ing farmer buying it
anyone that thinks farmers aren't paying the most c02 tax of all has rocks in their fu king heads
think maybe we won't be able to compete much longer?????????????????????????????????????