Money woes on Sask Farms.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I believe grassfarmer and the NFU policy are actually in favour of the carbon tax.

Very much so, many press releases on the NFU website stating their support for the CO2 tax, and requesting intervenor status in the provinces court challenge, intervenor on the side of the federal government, because:

Goff summed up by saying “The NFU is seeking Intervenor status as a way to do our part to prevent a few provinces from hamstringing federal efforts to meet our international and national climate change obligations.”

and:

our members voted overwhelmingly in favour of this court intervention to support federal jurisdiction over climate change policy.”

But, apparently they thought they were voting for other people to pay the CO2 tax, not them, because now they are asking that the CO2 tax on grain drying propane and nat gas be refunded. Because it is such a dire climate emergency, and nearly everything they publish reinforces that, but, as usual, this only applies to otherpeople, so they want to be exempted so they can continue to destroy the planet, while virtue signalling about what everyone else needs to do to save it.

Our very own Agriville member even contributed. After berating us dumb farmers constantly about it being our fault for not demanding our provinces do something about the CO2 tax on grain drying, instead of blaming the feds like we do, his very own organization has been insisting that the provinces shouldn't have any say in the matter, only the feds.

It is absurd for the Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Act to offer an exemption that seems to encourage farmers to use diesel-fired burners for grain drying, while penalizing those who use cleaner-burning natural gas or propane,” said Kyle Korneychuk who farms at Pelly, Saskatchewan. “We believe this is an oversight that can be corrected by setting up a rebate as soon as possible.”

Do as I say, not as I do. The climate crisis is only a crisis if someone else is paying for it, the hypocrite who constantly preaches it, sure isn't willing to pay for it, and admitted it publicly.
Link: https://www.nfu.ca/nfu-asks-minister-of-environment-and-climate-change-to-rebate-fuel-used-for-on-farm-grain-drying/ https://www.nfu.ca/nfu-asks-minister-of-environment-and-climate-change-to-rebate-fuel-used-for-on-farm-grain-drying/

Which all begs the question, can the atmosphere really differentiate between the CO2 that a farmer releases drying grain vs. the CO2 that an NFU member releases flying to their national conventions to discuss the perils of climate change? And if not, why should grain dying be exempt in the face of such an existential crisis?

[macdon02]

We are gonna watch a giant test run of burning less oil in China, there's traffic bans, flight cancellations, industry to skidding to a halt. Let's watch what this costs. 50000 gal of fuel in a 747, average burn on a 10 hour flight is 36000 gal. China has run their debt as high or higher then any developed nation in the world. I think they are gonna do a Chinexit into smaller states and this'll knock the legs out of any country depending on crude exports to pay the interest on their debt. Estimates on peak infection are April/May with infections doubling every 6.2 days. It's not so much the death rate as the infection as the breaking of supply chains worldwide. Those bearings for your combine come from China. IF, because at this point idk, this drags out for 100 days, it'll break the supplychain on so many items on shelves in Walmart, JD, CNH, GM and Ford causing a short term burst of supply inflation that hasnt been seen in our lifetimes. There is real risk the world economy is built upon a country that squats to take a crap and waters their livestock in the same hole. I don't think there's gonna be mountains of dead like Mao did, but it'll be the supply chain fracturing that's the real issue. Maybe we should of sold them a toilet instead of the last boat load of canola. It's been over a generation since smallpox, measles, polio and the rest of the nasty bugs have surfaced and it's taken for granted you don't need to be sanitary. Like war, a new generation forgets the lessons learnt but the previous. Can you get the crop in if you can't buy a box of 60 chain because the steel plant in China is shutdown? We have so much environmental regulation that you don't just start a steel plant in Canada or any manufacturing for that matter. It's interesting times, btw the locusts are in 4 or 5 countries right now and im guessing most insecticide is manufactured in China. Everything is connected. The "Green Swan" might be more toxic then the black swan event.

[burnt]

Very much so, many press releases on the NFU website stating their support for the CO2 tax, and requesting intervenor status in the provinces court challenge, intervenor on the side of the federal government, because:

and:


But, apparently they thought they were voting for other people to pay the CO2 tax, not them, because now they are asking that the CO2 tax on grain drying propane and nat gas be refunded. Because it is such a dire climate emergency, and nearly everything they publish reinforces that, but, as usual, this only applies to otherpeople, so they want to be exempted so they can continue to destroy the planet, while virtue signalling about what everyone else needs to do to save it.

Our very own Agriville member even contributed. After berating us dumb farmers constantly about it being our fault for not demanding our provinces do something about the CO2 tax on grain drying, instead of blaming the feds like we do, his very own organization has been insisting that the provinces shouldn't have any say in the matter, only the feds.

Do as I say, not as I do. The climate crisis is only a crisis if someone else is paying for it, the hypocrite who constantly preaches it, sure isn't willing to pay for it, and admitted it publicly.
Link: https://www.nfu.ca/nfu-asks-minister-of-environment-and-climate-change-to-rebate-fuel-used-for-on-farm-grain-drying/ https://www.nfu.ca/nfu-asks-minister-of-environment-and-climate-change-to-rebate-fuel-used-for-on-farm-grain-drying/

Which all begs the question, can the atmosphere really differentiate between the CO2 that a farmer releases drying grain vs. the CO2 that an NFU member releases flying to their national conventions to discuss the perils of climate change? And if not, why should grain dying be exempt in the face of such an existential crisis?

BOOM.

[Hamloc]

Here is a quote from a NFU press release they sent to environment minister Jonathan Wilkinson "outlining the urgent need for a rebate on pollution pricing fees currently being charged on natural gas and propane used for on-farm grain drying." This sentence raises a couple of issues, what the f#*# is a pollution pricing fee? Call a spade a spade!!! It is a tax!!!! Second if this rebate only applies to on-farm grain drying what happens to someone like myself who does not have a dryer and gets his grain dried at the elevator?

[Guest]

unfortunately ham , it will be same as farmer who doesn't have his own grain truck and gets a custom trucker , you will pay the tax plus GST

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Here is a quote from a NFU press release they sent to environment minister Jonathan Wilkinson "outlining the urgent need for a rebate on pollution pricing fees currently being charged on natural gas and propane used for on-farm grain drying." This sentence raises a couple of issues, what the f#*# is a pollution pricing fee? Call a spade a spade!!! It is a tax!!!! Second if this rebate only applies to on-farm grain drying what happens to someone like myself who does not have a dryer and gets his grain dried at the elevator?

Because calling it a tax against global greening, or against plant food, or against a colorless, odorless, natural and beneficial trace gas just doesn't have the same fear factor built into it.

And reread many of Grassfarmers posts, the NFU hates all businesses, and is convinced that corporations are responsible for stealing all of farmers income, so must be punished. The fact that those costs get passed back on to the farmers is an unintended consequence that they never considered.

On that same note, I see the NFU is siding with the union ( what a big surprise) in the coop refinery strike. Insisting the Coop meet the demands of the union workers. Which will raise the costs that farmers have to pay for fuel, or reduce their dividends, which is in direct opposition to their constant theme about businesses being evil, and taking all of the farmers profit away. And why are they encouraging a refinery to get back to work in the middle of a climate crisis, why aren't they taking this opportunity to force them to close for good, so we can all use nothing but solar panels and Chuck and Darrin Qualman are setting the example. Get those refinery workers good jobs in the renewable energy industry instead.

[jazz]

Gotta hand it to Trudeau, he fooled a lot of people, lefties included like Notley. He snuck that carbon tax in on everything and now it stays and even lefty fools get hammered with it when they thought big bad corps would pay for it. Little guys pay taxes, thats never going to change. Man some people are dense.

[Oliver88]

NFU supporting Unifor instead of farmers?
NFU supporting Trudeau’s carbon tax instead of farmers?

Maybe Goodale is consulting for them....

[bucket]

And now with the conservatives in turmoil because of Peter's dream , the liberals will be here for quite a while...

He probably can't beat Trudeau or Freeland either.....although Trudeau's resignation should come before the next election...

[helmsdale]

The "Green Swan" might be more toxic then the black swan event.

This is what's been on my mind.

Parts are going to be a challenge to procure if this continues.

What about all our generic, and for that matter probably alot of our "on-patent" chemicals? Most of our glyphosate is sourced out of china...

We stand a real chance of taking it up the pooper on the input side this year!

How about all the prepaid chemical that's been purchased at places like FNA? Are they going to be able to source supply?

And aside from the input side, who's going to be gobbling up our exports this year if everyone starts closing themselves off from the world?

May we all live in interesting times...

[AlbertaFarmer5]

BOOM.

And apparently they don't have any comeback, judging by the silence.

[oldguy48]

Two examples...

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Holey crap, what does that work out per bushel? Does make one wonder if further ahead leaving it in field for winter & let Ma Nature dry it in spring.

[Guest]

Holey crap, what does that work out per bushel? Does make one wonder if further ahead leaving it in field for winter & let Ma Nature dry it in spring.

but also remember , numbnuts tax went up 50 % jan. 1
i think it will be 60% of actual gas cost on next bill
real fu ck up for climatards because many farmers turned to dirty diesel heat instead of cleanest heating fuel (nat. gas) to dry their grain
who in hell would in a natural gas drying system now when Sask Energy energy basically tells people they don't want anymore customers with $200000 estimates to install and a 60% co2 tax
if i was a leach living off ag right now ,or CEO of SCIC, i would be pretty concerned
grain drying might be a thing of the past

[hobbyfrmr]

I struggle to believe the retail industry is just laying down and taking the tax. The heat and power bill must have increased for places like walmart, canadian tire,sobeys, superstore, coop. These businesses want their doors opening all year round.
It would help to have a higher regarded industry help send the message how this is just a money grab.

[bucket]

I struggle to believe the retail industry is just laying down and taking the tax. The heat and power bill must have increased for places like walmart, canadian tire,sobeys, superstore, coop. These businesses want their doors opening all year round.
It would help to have a higher regarded industry help send the message how this is just a money grab.

They have a way to recoup any carbon tax increases ....they pass them on to the consumer....plus a little extra for the headache....

The westons got 12 million to help out buying new refrigerators....