BC Rains

[jazz]

Getting hammered, inch a day of rainfall, flooding. P&H told me they cant load trains until ships start loading again. Trains sitting idle, vessels docked waiting for the weather to subside. Looks like a backlog again. March April movement for canola.

Why does our transportation system depend on hammering all the crop through the rockies in the middle of winter and then into rain soaked Vancouver. If there is ever an earth quake or a tsunami in that area, the entire Canadian grain system would be offline.

[bucket]

I think graincos should build storage facilities inland BC that can be used to keep grain coming from the prairies when shit weather hits . When the weather hits the coast load the inland storage and when cold weather hits the prairies , shuttle to the coast from the inland facility...I think about a 5 million tonne buffer storage would keep things moving ....

In cold weather the shorter trains could keep moving and then pick up a little extra from the inland facility...


Dream , grow , thrive.....hahaha

I dream to grow so I can thrive.....but thats not what happens at an FCC office lately...

[Sheepwheat]

What about the mountains and the heavy snow they blame all the time too, Bucket? Can’t win.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I think graincos should build storage facilities inland BC that can be used to keep grain coming from the prairies when shit weather hits . When the weather hits the coast load the inland storage and when cold weather hits the prairies , shuttle to the coast from the inland facility...I think about a 5 million tonne buffer storage would keep things moving ....

In cold weather the shorter trains could keep moving and then pick up a little extra from the inland facility...

It may be a better and more cost effective alternative than bottlenecking the entire system, but it has costs too. Handling the grain an additional time or two results in losses that have to come out of someones pocket(guess who's?). These are the figures for some US elevators:

Research at Iowa State University
determined that handling losses at commercial elevators range from 0.64 to 1.33% with a
three-year average of 0.88% (Hicks and Cloud). Elevator managers often assume
handling losses of 0.5% for elevation and discharge (in and out) plus 0.25% for each time
the grain is turned

[farming101]

Give 'er

[AlbertaFarmer5]

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Farming101, you've got your finger on the pulse, how much of the recent canola weakness is related to the risk off in markets due to Coronavirus, and soy oil dropping, and how much is connected to loading trouble?

[farming101]

All the above. Besides Coronavirus, there was also the decision by India to restrict imports of palm oil from Malaysia. Double whammy
https://www.reuters.com/article/india-palmoil-imports/update-1-india-restricts-refined-palm-oil-imports-after-malaysias-criticism-of-modi-idUSL4N29D300 https://www.reuters.com/article/india-palmoil-imports/update-1-india-restricts-refined-palm-oil-imports-after-malaysias-criticism-of-modi-idUSL4N29D300

Another point is what is happening with farm deliveries of canola here. Almost 500,000 t in week 25.

Also, SA is on track to bring in a good crop of beans.
http://www.soybeansandcorn.com/news/Jan31_20-Early-Soybean-Yields-in-Brazil-are-Generally-Positive http://www.soybeansandcorn.com/news/Jan31_20-Early-Soybean-Yields-in-Brazil-are-Generally-Positive

I should add that I don't think the loading delays are a huge factor in the drop of canola prices. Not helping either, but you only have to look at a palm oil or bean oil chart to see we are just along for the ride

[FarmJunkie]

Keep the price of grain as cheap as possible. Number one priority no matter how big a lie.

[furrowtickler]

Everything goes in cycles , has for the history of this planet 🌎

[woodland]

As an outsider looking in couldn’t there be a solution to be able to load in the rain? I mean like how many $$$ a day do these delays cost? Or is the fact that those costs get downloaded to us producers mean that nobody has an incentive to solve what looks like a simple problem.

I would love to pause calving during snow or rain but the cows haven’t gotten the memo yet. So windbreaks, sheds, and more straw are the solution. Not cheap or easy but definitely required vs doing nothing ............ which isn’t an option for us.

[grassfarmer]

As an outsider looking in couldn’t there be a solution to be able to load in the rain? I mean like how many $$$ a day do these delays cost? Or is the fact that those costs get downloaded to us producers mean that nobody has an incentive to solve what looks like a simple problem.

Maybe something like this?

http://www.ajot.com/news/brazil-invention-enables-ships-to-load-in-rain http://https://www.ajot.com/news/brazil-invention-enables-ships-to-load-in-rain

[helmsdale]

Used to load grain screening pellets out there in the pouring rain. What a friggin nightmare. A chute coming out the side of a building with nothing to pull under to keep the rain off of you. Bottom of every hopper was "soup"!

The nightmare truly started when you jumped the rocks and hit the barren frozen plains. That soup was now a rock!

They would put the ship loading on hold, but the GSP's? Gotta fill the daily quota EVERY DAY!

[jazz]

Here is an update on the flooding and rainfall. State of emergency declared. Roads washed out.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/weather/topstories/bc-flooding-closes-roads-cuts-power-prompts-state-of-emergency/ar-BBZyhBn?ocid=spartanntp B.C. flooding closes roads, cuts power, prompts state of emergency

[woodland]

Maybe something like this?

http://www.ajot.com/news/brazil-invention-enables-ships-to-load-in-rain http://https://www.ajot.com/news/brazil-invention-enables-ships-to-load-in-rain

Sounds simpler and cheaper than what I was thinking of. Magnets and a blow up tarp sounds quite flexible too. Brazil should know all about dealing with rain too I would imagine.