Dont Call It Global Warming

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Sure.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Sure.

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Reminds me of Jordan Peterson's clean your room rule. How can we expect to "fix" something as intangible and complex the climate( as if the climate has, or ever had an ideal steady state utopia,let along could be coerced into such a state at our will), when we can't even fix simple problems right in our own backyard, with all the tools, resources and knowledge having been available for decades.

[tweety]

You talk about math, can you visualize how insignificant one daily high temperature (for a few hours out of the day, and out of 365 days per year) in one station out of dozens on the continent, over multiple years, is to the average temperature trend?

Referring to the fact all over the world, generally there are more higher records then low.

So what does this tell you, trend going up or down?

Last updated at Sat Feb 29 23:35:05 UTC 2020 using 2265 observations from 23UTC

There are currently 2211 stations that have broken their daily high record, 3 that are tying it, and 6 that are near it.
There are currently 45 stations that have broken their daily low record, 0 that are tying it, and 0 that are near it.

If there was just one, well yes fairly insignificant - but still can be assigned a weight. How about 2211 vs 45? What is the trend, best guess, heading in?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Referring to the fact all over the world, generally there are more higher records then low.

So what does this tell you, trend going up or down?

Last updated at Sat Feb 29 23:35:05 UTC 2020 using 2265 observations from 23UTC

There are currently 2211 stations that have broken their daily high record, 3 that are tying it, and 6 that are near it.
There are currently 45 stations that have broken their daily low record, 0 that are tying it, and 0 that are near it.

If there was just one, well yes fairly insignificant - but still can be assigned a weight. How about 2211 vs 45? What is the trend, best guess, heading in?

I thought we were discussing the record in Antarctica. One of the few places not affected by urban heat island effects, and a myriad of other human influences on weather and temperature.

[tweety]

I thought we were discussing the record in Antarctica. One of the few places not affected by urban heat island effects, and a myriad of other human influences on weather and temperature.

Even simpler is the discussion,

What is climate. Check.

What is weather. Check.

Is the global climate temp going up, or down. Still debating i guess.

[fjlip]

Even simpler is the discussion,

What is climate. Check.

What is weather. Check.

Is the global climate temp going up, or down. Still debating i guess.

A Global Temperature is TOO COMPLEX with a huge ERROR factor to even believe.

Climate has and always will CHANGE! So what? Constant change is NORMAL not a CRISIS/EMERGENCY!

[tweety]

A Global Temperature is TOO COMPLEX with a huge ERROR factor to even believe.

Climate has and always will CHANGE! So what? Constant change is NORMAL not a CRISIS/EMERGENCY!

Chill pill dude, no one here is saying anything like that. For the 27th time, climate is the average of temperatures (weather) over the last 30 years, is it trending up or down?

Leave the philosophical/soci-politcal questions for another discussion.

And no, it isn't too complicated for someone with at least grade 7 math. You take the temperatures daily from all around the world and average them over 30 years. No errors, not that hard to believe.

[Guest]

Realism -

The bloody idiot hostess needs a slap of manners realism.

What a bitch

[Guest]

Reminds me of Jordan Peterson's clean your room rule. How can we expect to "fix" something as intangible and complex the climate( as if the climate has, or ever had an ideal steady state utopia,let along could be coerced into such a state at our will), when we can't even fix simple problems right in our own backyard, with all the tools, resources and knowledge having been available for decades.

That’s the problem , half these stupid fu cks never had to clean their room
Or feed the pigs and cows before school
Or even take the garbage out

[fjlip]

Chill pill dude, no one here is saying anything like that. For the 27th time, climate is the average of temperatures (weather) over the last 30 years, is it trending up or down?

Leave the philosophical/soci-politcal questions for another discussion.

And no, it isn't too complicated for someone with at least grade 7 math. You take the temperatures daily from all around the world and average them over 30 years. No errors, not that hard to believe.

Why 30 years? to leave out HOTTER 30's for sure. Twist cherry pick data, temp measurement locations have changed, cities are denser, nothing but errors introduced. What is margin of error? Every calculation has one.

30 years .... normal

[tweety]

Why 30 years? to leave out HOTTER 30's for sure. Twist cherry pick data, temp measurement locations have changed, cities are denser, nothing but errors introduced. What is margin of error? Every calculation has one.

30 years .... normal

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You have learned absolutely nothing. Maybe even got dumber.

[jazz]

You have learned absolutely nothing. Maybe even got dumber.

Again why did you pick 30 years? Something special about that number? If the earth was a million yrs old it might have relevance but since its not, 30 years is just another cherry picked number.

The earths temperature is NOT changing beyond any normal variations in a open chaotic system. 1 degree increase in a 100 years is meaningless except for hysteria purposes. The more concerning thing would be if it stayed the same forever because that wouldn't match what we have observed to have happened on this planet over its history. Imagine a system with hundreds of interconnected variables all changing and you want one to stay the same. Do some math, to make a single variable in a chaotic system stay static, you are going to have to know the solution for the other hundred and be able to modify them accordingly. Its mathematically impossible.

That any scientist signed on to this farce is just incredible.