Farm income to fall by 12% because of carbon tax according to APAS

[jazz]

What was the profit margin on most farms before carbon tax ? 10-15% at best ?

Wasn't it more like 5% from some article post a while back. That number sticks in my head for some reason.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Two threads in a row now exposing the lies, BS, hypocrisy, and the true costs of the scheme that the NFU propagandist members of Agriville have been so vehemently promoting all along. And so far, none of them have the decency or respect to even respond.

From the previous thread:

I believe grassfarmer and the NFU policy are actually in favour of the carbon tax.

Very much so, many press releases on the NFU website stating their support for the CO2 tax, and requesting intervenor status in the provinces court challenge, intervenor on the side of the federal government, because:

Goff summed up by saying “The NFU is seeking Intervenor status as a way to do our part to prevent a few provinces from hamstringing federal efforts to meet our international and national climate change obligations.”

and:

our members voted overwhelmingly in favour of this court intervention to support federal jurisdiction over climate change policy.”

But, apparently they thought they were voting for other people to pay the CO2 tax, not them, because now they are asking that the CO2 tax on grain drying propane and nat gas be refunded. Because it is such a dire climate emergency, and nearly everything they publish reinforces that, but, as usual, this only applies to otherpeople, so they want to be exempted so they can continue to destroy the planet, while virtue signalling about what everyone else needs to do to save it.

Our very own Agriville member even contributed. After berating us dumb farmers constantly about it being our fault for not demanding our provinces do something about the CO2 tax on grain drying, instead of blaming the feds like we do, his very own organization has been insisting that the provinces shouldn't have any say in the matter, only the feds.

It is absurd for the Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Act to offer an exemption that seems to encourage farmers to use diesel-fired burners for grain drying, while penalizing those who use cleaner-burning natural gas or propane,” said Kyle Korneychuk who farms at Pelly, Saskatchewan. “We believe this is an oversight that can be corrected by setting up a rebate as soon as possible.”

Do as I say, not as I do. The climate crisis is only a crisis if someone else is paying for it, the hypocrite who constantly preaches it, sure isn't willing to pay for it, and admitted it publicly.
Link: https://www.nfu.ca/nfu-asks-minister-of-environment-and-climate-change-to-rebate-fuel-used-for-on-farm-grain-drying/ https://www.nfu.ca/nfu-asks-minister-of-environment-and-climate-change-to-rebate-fuel-used-for-on-farm-grain-drying/

Which all begs the question, can the atmosphere really differentiate between the CO2 that a farmer releases drying grain vs. the CO2 that an NFU member releases flying to their national conventions to discuss the perils of climate change? And if not, why should grain dying be exempt in the face of such an existential crisis?

[Horse]

Wasn't it more like 5% from some article post a while back. That number sticks in my head for some reason.

Figures dont lie, but LIARS figure..

[jazz]

Figures dont lie, but LIARS figure..

The financial viability of a multi billion dollar industry is under attack. What ideas do you have? Suck up a 12% income decline?

Maybe its time for you to ride off into the socialist sunset.

[LEP]

Figures dont lie, but LIARS figure..

Translation: I never look at them myself. If the bank account has money, I tells mom let's go get groceries.

[Horse]

The financial viability of a multi billion dollar industry is under attack. What ideas do you have? Suck up a 12% income decline?

Maybe its time for you to ride off into the socialist sunset.

Must have hit a nerve,you seem a little more pissy than usual.

[SASKFARMER]

What’s your point horse you want to keep paying and paying till we have zero money left for doing all the work. Canada is getting left behind in the world on agriculture do to all the parasites that feed on farmers

[Horse]

What’s your point horse you want to keep paying and paying till we have zero money left for doing all the work. Canada is getting left behind in the world on agriculture do to all the parasites that feed on farmers

No I quite agree with you but was only pointing out that EVERYONE embellishes their side of the story. I realy dont think 12% is a realistic figure,and you probably dont dry as much grain every year or as many points.
What would it all average over say 5 years

[beaverdam]

No I quite agree with you but was only pointing out that EVERYONE embellishes their side of the story.

horsey, could you please repost,,, from your history of posts,,, 3 examples of where you "pointed out embellishments of Leftists or Leftwingers."

Ya,,, I didn't think so!

[blackpowder]

Listening to Skippy on the noon show today. Says all of the pollution tax coming back to the prairies.
People will be better off he says.
I got so damn mad I got a ticket for doing 130. Everything about that guy expensive. Bahaha

[furrowtickler]

No I quite agree with you but was only pointing out that EVERYONE embellishes their side of the story. I realy dont think 12% is a realistic figure,and you probably dont dry as much grain every year or as many points.
What would it all average over say 5 years

Time will tell , if in 5 years it goes to $50 or up to $100 / tn like they desperately think they have too, run the numbers on that .
Many of us have said , this carbon tax scheme will eventually crush western Canadian Ag . This is just the very beginning of where they want to go following the UN agenda .
You may not care , your on your way out , but for those of us and the next generation it will be a huge unavoidable direct cost ....... all for nothing but wealth transfer to urbanites.
Bio diesel have been effectively shut down, solar panels and wind turbines will not run a tractor or combine. All electric machinery is extremely far off if at all possible. That leaves us fossil fuels for a long time and we will get slaughtered before viable alternatives are in place if this carbon scheme is allowed to continue and get ramped up. We already pay a fortune for emission systems on powered units that cause expensive downtime .

[Guest]

Listening to Skippy on the noon show today. Says all of the pollution tax coming back to the prairies.
People will be better off he says.
I got so damn mad I got a ticket for doing 130. Everything about that guy expensive. Bahaha

any carbon tax(plus GST) on ticket ?