Eco windmills ......

[furrowtickler]

[Guest]

but, but...... they're environmentally friendly , chuck said............

[jazz]

These are steel right? Cant be melted down with energy from other windmills?

[farming101]

These are steel right? Cant be melted down with energy from other windmills?

The blades are glass or carbon fibre composites

[furrowtickler]

Maybe they are planting them like the tree 🌲 incentive...... hopefully they grow into nice new windmills 👌
Or maybe they should make boats out of them for eco nuts to tour the oceans with and tell the rest of us to keep paying carbon tax to support new windmills and stop leaving a mess for future generations.
Just wondering is all ....

[GDR]

The blades are glass or carbon fibre composites

Maybe putting them in the ground is the new carbon sequestration program. Win win situation to me!

[beaverdam]

Those useless blades should be buried in the back yards, of the various homes, of Al Gore and David Suzuki,,, and of course chucky et al.

Just more proof of the dishonesty of the left !

[chuckChuck]

Its great to see so many Agriville posters concerned about the environment by raising end of use plans for industry.

In Alberta the biggest cleanup issue by far is all the abandoned, orphaned and suspended oil and gas wells.

Along with the tar sand mines and tailing ponds the projected cots of the cleanup will be in the billions of dollars. The oil industry in many cases is walking away from their responsibilities for cleanup and taxpayers will be stuck paying for cleanup costs.

The Alberta Auditor General is taking a close look at the issue.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/alberta-orphan-wells-liability-audit-review-1.5433603 https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/alberta-orphan-wells-liability-audit-review-1.5433603

[Guest]

well at least the patch had use and contributed to the country

[flea beetle]

Its great to see so many Agriville posters concerned about the environment by raising end of use plans for industry.

In Alberta the biggest cleanup issue by far is all the abandoned, orphaned and suspended oil and gas wells.

Along with the tar sand mines and tailing ponds the projected cots of the cleanup will be in the billions of dollars. The oil industry in many cases is walking away from their responsibilities for cleanup and taxpayers will be stuck paying for cleanup costs.

The Alberta Auditor General is taking a close look at the issue.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/alberta-orphan-wells-liability-audit-review-1.5433603 https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/alberta-orphan-wells-liability-audit-review-1.5433603

That's right. Change the subject, and redirect. No need to deal with hard questions.

[jazz]

They will big digging lithium and oil out of those old wells with a fracking program. Not a liability yet, except in CBCs mind.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

well at least the patch had use and contributed to the country

You and Chuck beat me to it. I was going to say that this is not the way to attack the green energy scam, because there are similar long term environmental consequences for every energy source, or resource extraction humans do. When the fossil fuel industry is eventually eclipsed, or exhausted, all the pipelines and well casings will remain in the ground(the metal ones will eventually corrode, the plastic or composite may last as long as the blades though, all the wastes pumped into deep wells will remain. Nuclear waste will remain for even longer. The scars from mining etc etc.

But as caseih so correctly points out, the difference is, that unlike wind or solar, in exchange for the environmental legacy of fossil fuels, or nuclear, they powered and enabled civilization on a global scale for centuries already, and likely for centuries to come.

I would be willing to accept that windmills and solar panels have unintended and negative environmental consequences, IF, they had actually served some purpose during their intended lifespan, and done it at a cost that was an improvement over what it replaced. They have failed on both counts, making their environmental transgressions unacceptable.

[flea beetle]

You and Chuck beat me to it. I was going to say that this is not the way to attack the green energy scam, because there are similar long term environmental consequences for every energy source, or resource extraction humans do. When the fossil fuel industry is eventually eclipsed, or exhausted, all the pipelines and well casings will remain in the ground(the metal ones will eventually corrode, the plastic or composite may last as long as the blades though, all the wastes pumped into deep wells will remain. Nuclear waste will remain for even longer. The scars from mining etc etc.

But as caseih so correctly points out, the difference is, that unlike wind or solar, in exchange for the environmental legacy of fossil fuels, or nuclear, they powered and enabled civilization on a global scale for centuries already, and likely for centuries to come.

I would be willing to accept that windmills and solar panels have unintended and negative environmental consequences, IF, they had actually served some purpose during their intended lifespan, and done it at a cost that was an improvement over what it replaced. They have failed on both counts, making their environmental transgressions unacceptable.

Not to mention that oil and gas don’t tout themselves as environmentally friendly like “clean energy” does. It is all a farce. “Clean energy” snubs it’s nose at oil and gas environmental footprint all the while closing the door to the closet to hide all the skeletons.

[furrowtickler]

Not to mention that oil and gas don’t tout themselves as environmentally friendly like “clean energy” does. It is all a farce. “Clean energy” snubs it’s nose at oil and gas environmental footprint all the while closing the door to the closet to hide all the skeletons.

That’s the point , not attacking , just pointing out the hypocrisy is all .

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Not to mention that oil and gas don’t tout themselves as environmentally friendly like “clean energy” does. It is all a farce. “Clean energy” snubs it’s nose at oil and gas environmental footprint all the while closing the door to the closet to hide all the skeletons.

Definitely, the attitude of the Chuck's of the world, that their sh** doesn't smell, is definitely coming back to haunt them. And the labels of clean and green, or even renewable certainly aren't justified.

But there is so much other low hanging fruit that can be used to discredit this folly, and unlike the ecological footprint, it can't be turned around and use against the reliable energy sources they try so hard to denigrate.