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    #21
    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    Look at who stands to gain the most by sowing dissension in Canada, and who is our direct competitor in most of these markets, and who has almost monopolistic access to our products at discounted prices due to the blockading of any other effective export routes? And when the breaking point comes, who will be there with open arms ready to sort through the rubble and negotiate our salvation from this impossible situation? And what better way to ensure that those negotiations are one sided and ours is a position of such weakness and desperation that we are forced to accept any and all terms because it is better than the alternative(no alternative)?

    As much as I still insist our only option is joining the US, I don't think they are playing fair in implementing that vision. We need to do it as soon as possible, while we still have some leverage.

    And the unwitting political types, and protestors who think they stand against the US, and playing right into their hands.
    We've seen the US covertly sabotage and disrupt other countries and economies for their own benefit throughout the last 80 years. Now they're doing the same to Canadian oil & gas. And yet people are cheering for western separatism and statehood. Why would we want to join the nation responsible for cutting us down? and people blaming Trudeau for our problems - you guys give him too much credit. He'll be out next round anyway.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Marusko View Post
      We've seen the US covertly sabotage and disrupt other countries and economies for their own benefit throughout the last 80 years. Now they're doing the same to Canadian oil & gas. And yet people are cheering for western separatism and statehood. Why would we want to join the nation responsible for cutting us down? and people blaming Trudeau for our problems - you guys give him too much credit. He'll be out next round anyway.
      Propose a better solution? How do we stand up to a country 10 times our size by most measures?

      Would you rather be a helpless victim on the outside looking in, or enjoy the prosperity that comes from being part of that? Ideals and platitudes won't win this.
      They need our resources to control the bulk of the worlds non hostile free market oil supplies. And thereby maintain an American centric worlworld economy.

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        #23
        Originally posted by fjlip View Post
        on twitter...

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        There is a little more to this than whats on TV.


        https://www.resourceworks.com/unistoten?fbclid=IwAR3iW7er0DPwWze_wuA44lOz6NYext6 c0cmUifkbPs7RxEwWn99OqOMutEY https://www.resourceworks.com/unistoten?fbclid=IwAR3iW7er0DPwWze_wuA44lOz6NYext6 c0cmUifkbPs7RxEwWn99OqOMutEY

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          #24
          Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
          How do we stand up to a country 10 times our size by most measures?
          If its a backdoor takeover by the americans there isn't much we can do about it. They might be looking at a north American superstate and want to cut china off at the knees and want none of our exports going there. That was always the danger living next to a superpower. We gain a lot of security and ton of economic spin off just being beside them but we all know that one day they could roll over us too.

          The projects that went to tidewater got ferocious opposition compared to those that went to the US. I mean Keystone and Enbridge L3 got some court pushback but nothing like TMX, CGL and EE got. You know pipelines can be repurposed to carry a lot of different things, including fresh water. Maybe oil is just the first step.
          Last edited by jazz; Feb 11, 2020, 11:35.

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            #25
            BC Leg shut down, speeched cancelled, Halifax port blocked, protestors on Via and CN lines again, protests in Winnipeg yesterday, Toronto today. Major intersections shut down. Police laughing and joking with protestors, protecting their blockades. We are truly adrift. And zero leadership.

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              #26
              Originally posted by jazz View Post
              BC Leg shut down, speeched cancelled, Halifax port blocked, protestors on Via and CN lines again, protests in Winnipeg yesterday, Toronto today. Major intersections shut down. Police laughing and joking with protestors, protecting their blockades. We are truly adrift. And zero leadership.
              I think you can add the Co op refinery to the list.

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                #27
                BREAKING: CTV News has learned @CNRailway
                will be shutting down significant sections of its Canadian rail network due to the blockade east of Belleville. #cdnpoli #onpoli #CoastalGasLink

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                  #28
                  Skippy too busy giving out handjobs in Africa.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by burnt View Post
                    BREAKING: CTV News has learned @CNRailway
                    will be shutting down significant sections of its Canadian rail network due to the blockade east of Belleville. #cdnpoli #onpoli #CoastalGasLink
                    Once it backs up Quebec, then skippy will spring to action.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by burnt View Post
                      BREAKING: CTV News has learned @CNRailway
                      will be shutting down significant sections of its Canadian rail network due to the blockade east of Belleville. #cdnpoli #onpoli #CoastalGasLink
                      Hey here's an idea. Maybe they can get caught up on shipments of grain off the west coast now!

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