Europe So Green

[jazz]

Wonder if chuck wants to crow about that green revolution in Europe now.


https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/climate-policies-helped-put-54-million-europeans-into-energy-poverty-canadians-are-next Climate policies helped put 54 million Europeans into 'energy poverty.' Canadians are next
According to the EU, 54 million people already cannot afford their energy bills

The number of Europeans affected by this problem is high. According to the European Union in its 2015 report on rising energy costs, fully 11 per cent of its member states’ population — that’s 54 million people — already cannot afford their energy bills. The EU further estimates that fully one-quarter of residents, or 128 million people (and that includes the existing 54 million), are at risk of being energy poor.

[LEP]

Enviro whackos think differently than the rest of us. You would think being left wing should mean they are worried about the collect interest of all, but not so.

I was in Seattle a couple years ago and had a spirited conversation with a lady who found out that I was a farmer who seeded GMO's and used glyphosate. I stated that there were people starving in the world and that we needed to produce as much food as possible to feed the world.

She stated simply with a shrug of her shoulders "There are too many people in the world anyway".

[burnt]

Meanwhile as we are being charged an open-ended carbon tax, Japan builds coal plants:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/03/climate/japan-coal-***ushima.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/03/climate/japan-coal-***ushima.html

[bucket]

Anyone ever see a coal plant radiate land to unusable?

[tweety]

Enviro whackos think differently than the rest of us. You would think being left wing should mean they are worried about the collect interest of all, but not so.

I was in Seattle a couple years ago and had a spirited conversation with a lady who found out that I was a farmer who seeded GMO's and used glyphosate. I stated that there were people starving in the world and that we needed to produce as much food as possible to feed the world.

She stated simply with a shrug of her shoulders "There are too many people in the world anyway".

Actually you are only feeding rich people. It's BS we feed the world.

[jazz]

Actually you are only feeding rich people. It's BS we feed the world.

Well we aren't setting the price or controlling the distribution are we? Take that up with someone else. Already growing this stuff at bargain basement prices, if its the rich that eat it so be it.

[TASFarms]

Anyone ever see a coal plant radiate land to unusable?

Nope . It’s Morher Nature’s fertilizer

[tweety]

Well we aren't setting the price or controlling the distribution are we? Take that up with someone else. Already growing this stuff at bargain basement prices, if its the rich that eat it so be it.

We are setting the price by growing too much for the amount of rich people who can afford to buy it. You can't always absolve yourself and blame everyone else.

[farming101]

The Baloney Detector went off again..

For the first 5 months of this crop year Canada has shipped 1,389,000 tonnes of wheat other than durum to countries with a GDP less that 5% of Canada's(2018 figures)

Don't tell me the rich people and their livestock ate it all

[bucket]

What's worse is we tell everyone what we grow without knowing it and put a medal of Honor on guys that give their data away for free....by social media....or being linked to someone who is reading your data regularly....for free....

[tmyrfield]

Actually you are only feeding rich people. It's BS we feed the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

Then why is china trade so important to canada?

[furrowtickler]

Wonder if chuck wants to crow about that green revolution in Europe now.


https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/climate-policies-helped-put-54-million-europeans-into-energy-poverty-canadians-are-next Climate policies helped put 54 million Europeans into 'energy poverty.' Canadians are next
According to the EU, 54 million people already cannot afford their energy bills

The number of Europeans affected by this problem is high. According to the European Union in its 2015 report on rising energy costs, fully 11 per cent of its member states’ population — that’s 54 million people — already cannot afford their energy bills. The EU further estimates that fully one-quarter of residents, or 128 million people (and that includes the existing 54 million), are at risk of being energy poor.

One of the main reasons why the EU and UN push the carbon tax and climate agenda. They want to simply fund this green machine and try to offset the huge costs by attacking the oil industry and fossil fuels. Follow the money, it has virtually nothing to do with CO2, but they have convinced millions of people. So instead of massive profits going to the oil industry, its going to the green machine right or wrong. And so far the average Joe is the net looser all under the guise of saving the planet.
Taxing the middle class to death is proving to be an economic bomb and the fuse has been lit by the UN.
Higher energy costs and tax's simply take away from basic needs from 95% of the population.
If/when green energy is 1/2 the net cost over fossil fuels, then this whole dream will make sense. Until then it will just further erode the little disposable income left for the middle class.

[jazz]

We are setting the price by growing too much for the amount of rich people who can afford to buy it. You can't always absolve yourself and blame everyone else.

Tweety, Canada is insignificant in the global grains trade. We have zero effect on the pricing regardless of supply and demand.

[tweety]

Tweety, Canada is insignificant in the global grains trade. We have zero effect on the pricing regardless of supply and demand.

Who said anything about Canada?

[tweety]

Just talked to fellow in Holland pays .22 Euro for a kwh. All in with distribution we pay $0.34 cana buck

A little looking finds 1.71 cdn dollar in a pound. 1 kwh in UK costs 12 to 13 pence or 22 cdn cents per kwh plus fixed charge of 80 to 100 lb

Poverty in UK is 60% of the mean. The article is short on numbers, but they pay what we do. The article is click bait, perfect for Agriville.

https://www.ukpower.co.uk/home_energy/tariffs-per-unit-kwh https://www.ukpower.co.uk/home_energy/tariffs-per-unit-kwh