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    #25
    Let me update your economic training tweety, if we dont produce it, someone else will and they will take that market away from us and then your supply and demand graphs will be meaningless.

    The observed price swings between oversupply and under production are meaningless. 10% of the canola crop is spoiled or stil in the field. Another 50% is probably grading 2 or 3. And anything that is even close to a number one has to be dried down before anyone will take it. Did you see any price uptick?

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      #26
      Originally posted by jazz View Post
      Let me update your economic training tweety, if we dont produce it, someone else will and they will take that market away from us and then your supply and demand graphs will be meaningless.

      The observed price swings between oversupply and under production are meaningless. 10% of the canola crop is spoiled or stil in the field. Another 50% is probably grading 2 or 3. And anything that is even close to a number one has to be dried down before anyone will take it. Did you see any price uptick?

      "We" is farmers. All of them, Why do i have to keep saying that? Maybe grab a can of Boost.

      You really struggle with math, don't you - averages especially. Those "meaningless" numbers in the chart produce an average price - and right now we are pretty close to the 5 year average. If the price today was 362, then you'd actually have something to whine about - like that would help.

      BTW, your article is crap. Click bait for the weak minded. The price of electricity in UK is about the same as here.

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        #27
        Originally posted by tweety View Post
        BTW, your article is crap. Click bait for the weak minded. The price of electricity in UK is about the same as here.
        Well that's weird, if the renewables were such a godsend why did they greenlight 32 natural gas generation projects?

        Did you bother to read it? The statement came from the EU itself. I think they should have a pretty good handle on who is living in energy poverty.

        Frankly I don't give a damn what other farmers in other countries do. We, as in Canadian farmers, have a small and precarious position in the world for our ag products and anything that disrupts that supply would kill our industry dead.

        Sounds like you are an advocate for some central planning, just like the ol USSR used to do.

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          #28
          Originally posted by tweety View Post
          And how is cheaper price working out for you for your farm net? Also curious why you argue cheaper is better.

          For the other sods on canola price. 490 average last 5 years, and now its 462. Incredibly 38 bucks down from the average, how will you ever survive....

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          You were arguing that we only produce food for the rich and don't feed the poor. My point was by producing more we make it cheaper for the poor. Keep on track here. I wasn't complaining about the price.

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            #29
            Originally posted by LEP View Post
            You were arguing that we only produce food for the rich and don't feed the poor. My point was by producing more we make it cheaper for the poor. Keep on track here. I wasn't complaining about the price.
            You really want to produce wheat for 2$ a bushel so the poor can afford it? How will that help? It can't just be a volume thing.

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              #30
              Originally posted by jazz View Post
              Well that's weird, if the renewables were such a godsend why did they greenlight 32 natural gas generation projects?

              Did you bother to read it? The statement came from the EU itself. I think they should have a pretty good handle on who is living in energy poverty.

              Frankly I don't give a damn what other farmers in other countries do. We, as in Canadian farmers, have a small and precarious position in the world for our ag products and anything that disrupts that supply would kill our industry dead.

              Sounds like you are an advocate for some central planning, just like the ol USSR used to do.
              The statement didn't come from the EU, the EU doesn't make statements, advocacy groups do. Mark Mike is one of them, policy analyst and writer for Canadians for Affordable Energy. No data in the article, just advocacy for non renewable energy. Stop being so blind.

              Fact of the matter is residents of UK don't make enough money. Their power price is the same as ours.

              I know you don't give a dam about other farmers in other countries, that's your first problem. Blinders.

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                #31
                Originally posted by tweety View Post
                You really want to produce wheat for 2$ a bushel so the poor can afford it? How will that help? It can't just be a volume thing.
                ??? where did $2 wheat come from?? I never mentioned anything about that. You better bone up on your marketing skills if you are selling for $2.

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                  #32
                  Originally posted by LEP View Post
                  ??? where did $2 wheat come from?? I never mentioned anything about that. You better bone up on your marketing skills if you are selling for $2.
                  Well that is what you would have to sell it to the poor people for for them to buy it. Keep up please.

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                    #33
                    Not sure where you pulled this from. My point was was the more grain grown the more people get to eat. Pretty simple really.
                    Last edited by LEP; Feb 15, 2020, 14:49.

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                      #34
                      I think we should have a two price system. The socialists should pay way more for grain and food, then we can sell it to the poor for less.

                      I think the socialist should pay more for energy too and then we could subsidize the rest of the wealth makers energy bills and society would be better off and the socialist could feel good about paying more and helping.

                      If they can’t afford to pay to eat or stay warm.....well there are too many of them in the World already.....

                      We need to make all socialist from all over the World a race or a nationality or hell even a gender.....then we could cancel their parades, ban them from coming into our county, and xerox their attributes and give it to the cops.l to take care of the damage they do to our communities.
                      Last edited by Crestliner; Feb 15, 2020, 15:09.

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                        #35
                        Originally posted by LEP View Post
                        Not sure where you pulled this from. My point was was the more grain grown the more people get to eat. Pretty simple really.
                        I agree, I'm sure Porsche says the exact same thing. But how many can afford a new Porsche? How about they just sell them for 25,000 a piece? They could sell lots of them.....

                        The same with the crops we grow, they are far too expensive for the majority of the world. There are only so many rich enough customers, and a lot more expensive grain then they want to buy.

                        If you could produce a bushel of wheat for 2$ you would have a lot more customers. But instead we sell for 6.50 and struggle to find enough rich people to buy it.

                        Economics 101. We have more supply then demand, therefore the price remains at Cost of Production because its a buyers market.

                        Maybe I'm wrong, maybe you can actually grow wheat for 2$ a bushel. If you can, you will have no problem making money and delivering all you can grow.
                        Last edited by tweety; Feb 16, 2020, 16:07.

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