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    #11
    Originally posted by farming101 View Post
    Since the end of the CWB, grain shipments have set a series of new records. That shows that inefficiencies within crop production and grain handling systems are less than they used to be. The green bar marks the last year with the CWB coordinating exports.
    Regarding the present situation, I wouldn't be surprised if the grain trade is close to claiming force majeure
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    Every grain company wants to put more grain through Vancouver. What about Thunder Bay, Rupert and Churchill. When the grain was marketed by the CWB all wheat was moved.

    The 47 ships waiting and Vancouver and another 11 scheduled to arrive is a testament to inefficiency and stupidity.

    The $4.00 a bushel basis (Sask Wheat 2RS) at Vancouver is from inefficiency and robbery. The grain companies only operate for themselves.

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      #12
      Ah yes, the myth of the Lost Cause.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Integrity_Farmer View Post
        When the grain was marketed by the CWB all wheat was moved.
        Baloney Indicator went off again....Ending stocks are trending down in spite of much larger production

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          #14
          Originally posted by farming101 View Post
          Baloney Indicator went off again....Ending stocks are trending down in spite of much larger production

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          Why the $4.00 a bushel basis in Vancouver

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            #15
            Originally posted by Integrity_Farmer View Post
            When the grain was marketed by the CWB all wheat was moved.
            Yea, I wouldn't go around saying that too loudly in the Durum growing areas.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Integrity_Farmer View Post
              Why the $4.00 a bushel basis in Vancouver
              You do realize that $4/bu is about $147/t?
              That inflated figure that has been circulating around for years is not based on reality.
              December customs figures indicate wheat exports for all of Canada not including durum came in at $298.65/t.
              https://www5.statcan.gc.ca/cimt-cicm/topNCountryCommodities-marchandises?lang=eng&chapterId=10&sectionId=2&sec tionLabel=II+-+Vegetable+products&refMonth=12&refYr=2019&freq=6& countryId=999&usaState=0&provId=1&arrayId=9800000& commodityId=100199&commodityName=Wheat+and+meslin% 2C+other+than+durum+wheat%2C+other+than+seed+for+s owing&topNDefault=10&tradeType=1&monthStr=December https://www5.statcan.gc.ca/cimt-cicm/topNCountryCommodities-marchandises?lang=eng&chapterId=10&sectionId=2&sec tionLabel=II+-+Vegetable+products&refMonth=12&refYr=2019&freq=6& countryId=999&usaState=0&provId=1&arrayId=9800000& commodityId=100199&commodityName=Wheat+and+meslin% 2C+other+than+durum+wheat%2C+other+than+seed+for+s owing&topNDefault=10&tradeType=1&monthStr=December
              About two-thirds give or take of this year's crop is grading a 2 at port. There is a higher than usual amount of 3 and feed. There is also small amounts of other types of wheat in the 298.65 mentioned above.
              1CWRS 13.5 has been around $225 with #2 about $7 off that and #3 another $20 below that. Your area may be different. An estimate would indicate that the difference between farm gate pricing and that realized at port is about 85-90 for the majority of the HRS this year, with #3 higher at 90-105. I would think feed is higher yet. I feel sorry for areas with no good local market for feed.
              Add up primary elevator charges, administration, rail costs, terminal costs and see if that doesn't seem close.
              Here is an old cost workup from years ago under the CWB.
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                #17
                He's so busy rewriting history, facts are but a mere nuisance.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by farming101 View Post
                  You do realize that $4/bu is about $147/t?
                  That inflated figure that has been circulating around for years is not based on reality.
                  December customs figures indicate wheat exports for all of Canada not including durum came in at $298.65/t.
                  https://www5.statcan.gc.ca/cimt-cicm/topNCountryCommodities-marchandises?lang=eng&chapterId=10&sectionId=2&sec tionLabel=II+-+Vegetable+products&refMonth=12&refYr=2019&freq=6& countryId=999&usaState=0&provId=1&arrayId=9800000& commodityId=100199&commodityName=Wheat+and+meslin% 2C+other+than+durum+wheat%2C+other+than+seed+for+s owing&topNDefault=10&tradeType=1&monthStr=December https://www5.statcan.gc.ca/cimt-cicm/topNCountryCommodities-marchandises?lang=eng&chapterId=10&sectionId=2&sec tionLabel=II+-+Vegetable+products&refMonth=12&refYr=2019&freq=6& countryId=999&usaState=0&provId=1&arrayId=9800000& commodityId=100199&commodityName=Wheat+and+meslin% 2C+other+than+durum+wheat%2C+other+than+seed+for+s owing&topNDefault=10&tradeType=1&monthStr=December
                  About two-thirds give or take of this year's crop is grading a 2 at port. There is a higher than usual amount of 3 and feed. There is also small amounts of other types of wheat in the 298.65 mentioned above.
                  1CWRS 13.5 has been around $225 with #2 about $7 off that and #3 another $20 below that. Your area may be different. An estimate would indicate that the difference between farm gate pricing and that realized at port is about 85-90 for the majority of the HRS this year, with #3 higher at 90-105. I would think feed is higher yet. I feel sorry for areas with no good local market for feed.
                  Add up primary elevator charges, administration, rail costs, terminal costs and see if that doesn't seem close.
                  Here is an old cost workup from years ago under the CWB.
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                  This is from Sask Wheat they list the basis for 2 RS at $141.46 and 3 RS at $149.34. This basis would include transportation and handling.
                  You may want to call Sask Wheat.
                  People on here are screaming for price transiency and when someone like Sask wheat provides it they scream at you for posting it.
                  https://saskwheat.ca/
                  Last edited by Integrity_Farmer; Feb 14, 2020, 23:39.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Integrity_Farmer View Post
                    This is from Sask Wheat they list the basis for 2 RS at $141.46 and 3 RS at $149.34. This basis would include transportation and handling.
                    You may want to call Sask Wheat.
                    People on here are screaming for price transiency and when someone like Sask wheat provides it they scream at you for posting it.
                    https://saskwheat.ca/
                    IF why would you reference this again when you chose not to respond to invitations for comment the last time?
                    https://www.agriville.com/threads/39460-sask-wheat-commission-report-excessive-basis-aka-grain-companies-screwing-farmers https://www.agriville.com/threads/39460-sask-wheat-commission-report-excessive-basis-aka-grain-companies-screwing-farmers
                    Would you please comment on the values I linked to in the above post?
                    https://www5.statcan.gc.ca/cimt-cicm/topNCountryCommodities-marchandises?lang=eng&chapterId=10&sectionId=2&sec tionLabel=II+-+Vegetable+products&refMonth=12&refYr=2019&freq=6& countryId=999&usaState=0&provId=1&arrayId=9800000& commodityId=100199&commodityName=Wheat+and+meslin% 2C+other+than+durum+wheat%2C+other+than+seed+for+s owing&topNDefault=10&tradeType=1&monthStr=December https://www5.statcan.gc.ca/cimt-cicm/topNCountryCommodities-marchandises?lang=eng&chapterId=10&sectionId=2&sec tionLabel=II+-+Vegetable+products&refMonth=12&refYr=2019&freq=6& countryId=999&usaState=0&provId=1&arrayId=9800000& commodityId=100199&commodityName=Wheat+and+meslin% 2C+other+than+durum+wheat%2C+other+than+seed+for+s owing&topNDefault=10&tradeType=1&monthStr=December
                    Do you understand the role of the Canadian International Trade Database? Have you done research as to where the values posted to the website originate and what they reflect regarding actual value of export goods?
                    https://www5.statcan.gc.ca/cimt-cicm/page-page?lang=eng&mode=concepts https://www5.statcan.gc.ca/cimt-cicm/page-page?lang=eng&mode=concepts
                    Have you researched the export basis research carried out by the Grain Monitoring Program since 2002?
                    http://grainmonitor.ca/reports.html#AnnualReports http://grainmonitor.ca/reports.html#AnnualReports

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Integrity_Farmer View Post
                      This is from Sask Wheat they list the basis for 2 RS at $141.46 and 3 RS at $149.34. This basis would include transportation and handling.
                      You may want to call Sask Wheat.
                      People on here are screaming for price transiency and when someone like Sask wheat provides it they scream at you for posting it.
                      https://saskwheat.ca/
                      The question is where does Sask Wheat get their numbers as their price for wheat appears to be anywhere from 35 dollars per tonne for the U.S. to almost $70 a tonne for Indonesia to high. Obvious grade variability but the point remains where does Sask Wheat get their price? Is Statscan in cahoots with the grain companies?

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