Oh....oh!!!!!!!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Has anyone ever wondered why the graphs of arctic sea ice extent always start in 1979? Even though satellite data exists back into the early 60's, and other records and proxies go back much further?

Do you think that 1979 is a random date, or represents a high or a low in arctic sea ice?

Same for Antarctica. Anyone know what years their records were set, and that the record max and min were only 2 years apart, and represent a 20% decline in two years. Actually, not true, the maximum record was broken again in recent years, contrary to popular belief, the minimum stands.

[jazz]

Has anyone ever wondered why the graphs of arctic sea ice extent always start in 1979? Even though satellite data exists back into the early 60's, and other records and proxies go back much further?

Well if it's anything like temperature we all know those extreme records were set 100+ yrs ago. Probably sea ice has a similar result.

But rapidly melting? Only a climate radical could draw that conclusion.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Well if it's anything like temperature we all know those extreme records were set 100+ yrs ago. Probably sea ice has a similar result.

But rapidly melting? Only a climate radical could draw that conclusion.

Since I'm quite certain the alarmists haven't gone looking for the data I was asking about, I will help them out.

This is from the 1990 IPCC report. For some reason back then, the IPCC had satellite data back to the early 70's. Now they only have data from 1979 on. Strange indeed.

[rumrocks]

Shame on you, if you keep exposing data like that Greta won't be able to afford her Valium and Al Gore will have to go back to selling tobacco.

[furrowtickler]

Your graph shows a large drop in sea ice extent in the 20th century which fits with the current scientific evidence that human caused climate change is occurring.

Well not really .....
If you just look at the time from the last mini ice age ya ....

But if you don’t exclude the rest of the data it shows a much different, repeatable climate change story based on ice cores and scientific studies ....


So was the man made climate change responsible for every run up in the history of that graph as well ? Or much more complicated than simply blaming C02 ?

[fjlip]

Since I'm quite certain the alarmists haven't gone looking for the data I was asking about, I will help them out.

This is from the 1990 IPCC report. For some reason back then, the IPCC had satellite data back to the early 70's. Now they only have data from 1979 on. Strange indeed.

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Great responses fellows!

That is the SCAM, cherry pick data to validate the LIE! The Cult laps up the candied examples and howls the sky is falling! Tax me all powerful liberals to undo the natural cycles!

What a sorry bunch of lemmings! Yes sheepwheat I share the examples of DOOM that never happened. Chuck STILL can't show one prediction that came true.

[mustardman]

I see why Conservative govt Always want to DEFUND Education
They Like The public to Remain Uninformed and Close minded

Do ANY of you farmers Have ANY background in Science in Post secondary education or were you home schooled ?

[Sheepwheat]

Do you have a problem with homeschooling? And to answer your first question, yes.

[A990]

I see why Conservative govt Always want to DEFUND Education
They Like The public to Remain Uninformed and Close minded

Do ANY of you farmers Have ANY background in Science in Post secondary education or were you home schooled ?

.that's rich!
...you must be talking about 30 years ago...now you go to post secondary to get indoctrinated and learn how to be an activist
maybe not in stem fields...not YET

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I see why Conservative govt Always want to DEFUND Education
They Like The public to Remain Uninformed and Close minded

Do ANY of you farmers Have ANY background in Science in Post secondary education or were you home schooled ?

In one short post you have summed up the entire debate. One side uses character assassination, attacks the messenger, Calls on a higher and infallible authority, while insulting and denigrating the credentials and intelligence of anyone who dares to question said authority. Yet makes no attempts at all to Falsify the message or support their own.

Facts don't matter. Because if the facts were on their side, they could use them as a counter argument. The fact that this is their immediate fall back response speak volumes about which side understands the science, and has the facts to back them up.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

.that's rich!
...you must be talking about 30 years ago...now you go to post secondary to get indoctrinated and learn how to be an activist
maybe not in stem fields...not YET

I was surprised at how many of my professors Never wasted any opportunities to offer Left-wing political indoctrination Into STEM courses. The difference being that most of the students had the education and common sense to see through it. Not true in the social "sciences".

The trouble with educating engineers, is they are training them how to think and learn and apply basic principles. So they are difficult to indoctrinate. Various polls show thevast difference in political ideologies between STEM people, and social science type people.

[A990]

The trouble with educating engineers, is they are training them how to think and learn and apply basic principles. So they are difficult to indoctrinate. Various polls show thevast difference in political ideologies between STEM people, and social science type people.

..I hope you're right....i think most keep their noses to the grindstone and just do their work.
....but this stuff is stage 4 cancer now (social justice/critical race theory/political marxism)... its scary how good it is at getting into everything.

https://education.cu-portland.edu/blog/leaders-link/importance-of-arts-in-steam-education/ https://education.cu-portland.edu/blog/leaders-link/importance-of-arts-in-steam-education/