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    Tandem vs tridem vs splitting super-b

    How much will a tandem trailer haul legally?
    I'm debating between a super-b and splitting it at harvest with 2 trucks (have 2 decent tractor units, 1 heavy spec, 1 lighter) or a straight trailer.

    A tridem is good for 32 tonnes? How much is a tandem legal for?

    I've been selling all my grain either at the bin for feed or 3 miles to local richardsons but with a tridem or super-b I would have options. Not sure how far a haul is worth it with a tandem?

    Thanks

    #2
    Split super b's are not good at harvest because it is tight for a swing auger. The likelihood of running over your hopper increases with the reduced span between the landing gear and tires.

    We have a couple tandem trailer a triaxle and a set of super b's. The super b's are going down the road next for a triaxle as it is the handiest seeding and harvest.

    Depending on your tare you are 26 to 27mt on a tandem trailer. 3 miles to town you are better off with a cheaper tandem trailer that investing in a set of super b's. IMO. DYODD.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Ronski View Post
      How much will a tandem trailer haul legally?
      I'm debating between a super-b and splitting it at harvest with 2 trucks (have 2 decent tractor units, 1 heavy spec, 1 lighter) or a straight trailer.

      A tridem is good for 32 tonnes? How much is a tandem legal for?

      I've been selling all my grain either at the bin for feed or 3 miles to local richardsons but with a tridem or super-b I would have options. Not sure how far a haul is worth it with a tandem?

      Thanks
      Legal gvw:
      Tandem trailer: 39.5mT
      Tridem trailer: 46.5mT
      Sup B: 63.5mT

      What are guys typically tareing with tandems? 15ish? So 24.5 net?

      Father in laws tridem is fairly heavy built, and he tares 16, so 30.5mT on his tridem unit

      My supers tare 18.5. Lots of guys 19-19.5, have seen legacies pulled by light spec trucks coming in under 18.

      Pup on super is handy, and behaves much like a regular tandem does, you might have to slide your 5th wheel back to avoid ripping off your mud flaps though as the pin depth is shallower.

      Lead is not all that great on it's own... it's impossible to get a "legal load" on it as you physically cant get the weight onto the tridem set. Puts a fair amount of stress on the frame and supports as they aren't really designed to be run on their own.

      I regularly drop the lead in the yard at seeding time and use it for small amounts of seed or fert when switching crops. Pull the pup with seed and fert. Also drop the lead if its wet at harvest and just pull the pup.

      Other thing to consider is it certainly helps to have full wrap fenders on your truck when pulling just the pup as they dont have fenders on the front like leads typically do.

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        #4
        12.5 tonne tare on our tandem.

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          #5
          Doepker tandem off super b with a daycab is just over 12 tare.
          Super b with steel Doepker 18.7 or so. The Wilson's are about 700kg more

          I agree with treating the lead of a super b with care. They can be damaged if overloaded which is really easy to do

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            #6
            I am 13mt tare on my tandem trailer. Winter weights on tandem in Sask is 41.5 mt. No winter weights on tridem but you can still haul a reasonable amount during road bans. Super b's in Sask are 62.5mt with winter weights at 63.5mt.

            Licensing is alot more on a the tractor pulling a super b versus a tandem or triaxle so there is that too.
            Last edited by LEP; Feb 14, 2020, 11:06.

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              #7
              Originally posted by LEP View Post
              I am 13mt tare on my tandem trailer. Winter weights on tandem in Sask is 41.5 mt. No winter weights on tridem but you can still haul a reasonable amount during road bans. Super b's in Sask are 62.5mt with winter weights at 63.5mt.

              Licensing is alot more on a the tractor pulling a super b versus a tandem or triaxle so there is that too.
              It's amazing the differences that still exist between provinces...

              I was going off Alberta numbers. Im fairly sure registration is the same for all tractor units here regardless of weight. Even if there is a difference it is minimal. 63.5 costs me ~$100 for a farm plate. It was $3600 when I was commercial.

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                #8
                our two freight liners , one with steel doepker tandem and sleeper, one with aluminum wilson and day cab both tare at 13,000 depending on fuel
                haul 26.5 mt primary , 28.5 winter
                was curious the other day saw a tri drive tractor with a tridem trailer , what can they haul? is a tri drive recognized ins Sask?
                tandem trailers nice and versatile around yard and narrow approaches , put trailer wheels in ditch on corners enough with them , lol, let alone a tridem

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                  #9
                  Winter weight for tandem trailer is 42t and 40t on summer primary. I have a daycab with doepker tandem high side that’s 11.8t full of fuel, but the heavier trucks are high 12’s to low 13’s.

                  Tough to justify the tridem unless you can load it full.

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                    #10
                    If you have a light duty day cab truck and a tandem trailer you will almost haul as much as a heavy spec truck with a mouse house pulling a tridem. But remember you don’t have 3 hoppers


                    Iceman

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