fiddle while Rome burns

[bucket]

Tom

Is this a legislative change where the MPs have to approve a new bill for it to happen?

Or does the seed industry have the authority to do it on their own?

And why are the conservative MPs not listening to farmers on this?

[TOM4CWB]

Tom

Is this a legislative change where the MPs have to approve a new bill for it to happen?

Or does the seed industry have the authority to do it on their own?

And why are the conservative MPs not listening to farmers on this?

Bucket,

The answer is my MP Damien Kurik for BattleRiver Crowfoot is well aware of this SeedSynergy NSO trial balloon... and a number of us Pedigreed CSGA Seed Grower members in this constituency have alerted MP Damien to our concerns and multiple objections. The CSGA can modernize without being absorbed by the Seed Trade... by MOU... which a number of CSGA members have been advocating for years. This is a bluff.

This NSO SeedSynergy 'project' will require changes to the Canada Seeds Act... which will require parliamentary changes to the Canada Seeds Act.

Call your MP... let your voice be heard.

[sawfly1]

Tom it is all your own doing.
When I do stupid things.
I beat myself up , mope around,
Hide in the basement, till I have
Suffered enough.

You on the other hand , have a
Different painless method.
Blame it on Trudeau.
( lots of things to blame Trudeau for , but this is not one of them)

This is all in the conservatives
And your lap.

In ten years when all public
Breeding is gone , CSGA is gone.
When 3 big corporations lease you the right to
Plant your own seed production every year.

Canola seed 120$/acre ,wheat 40$
(Probably low)
All the old ones are delisted, so you are stuck.

Think of all those poor landlords getting rent chiseled
Down.
Think of land values falling.
Got to get the $ somewhere,
And that is the only place left.
Right.
The consumer, well they will
Pay too.

Thanks a lot.
I am sure Bayer thanks you too.

[TOM4CWB]

Tom it is all your own doing.
When I do stupid things.
I beat myself up , mope around,
Hide in the basement, till I have
Suffered enough.

You on the other hand , have a
Different painless method.
Blame it on Trudeau.
( lots of things to blame Trudeau for , but this is not one of them)

This is all in the conservatives
And your lap.

In ten years when all public
Breeding is gone , CSGA is gone.
When 3 big corporations lease you the right to
Plant your own seed production every year.

Canola seed 120$/acre ,wheat 40$
(Probably low)
All the old ones are delisted, so you are stuck.

Think of all those poor landlords getting rent chiseled
Down.
Think of land values falling.
Got to get the $ somewhere,
And that is the only place left.
Right.
The consumer, well they will
Pay too.

Thanks a lot.
I am sure Bayer thanks you too.

Sawfly,

You can blame the man in the moon if you like... it will do about as much as blaming me,

I was elected over 2 years ago... by seed growers in Alberta... to oppose 'value creation and seed synergy'

I have worked to bring responsible change, to our Canadian Seeds Act; that brings value to all Canadian farmers and Agriculture, and respects the investments each sector [Farmers, and Seed Trade/Plant Breeders alike], have made.

Ask Crop Life Canada and the Seed Companies how much they like me... either denial or a stern frown as they met me at CSGA AGM's or Special CSGA Meetings to challenge confiscation of Farmers Seed privileges. Phone Lorne Hadley of CPTA who enforces UPOV 91... ask what Tom Jackson stood for in these meetings... i stood for your farmer saved Seeds privileges.

In Quebec Feb 18th Special CSGA Meeting it was Claude Lapoint a director from CSI and Past President of the Seed Trade CSTA... that told Quebec and CSGA members CFIA and Ag Canada were responsible for this. CFIA and Ag Canada were not even there at the meeting... even though they had a statutory obligation to be at this CSGA special meeting in Quebec Feb 18

Cheers

[furrowtickler]

Tom ..... majority of seed growers were in favour of UPOV at the beginning
I agree with Sawfly , you got what you wished for. Most thought it was a big payday, most on here called it from day one ...... the big boys were just sitting in the weeds waiting to take control.
It was easy to see coming if you never had the blinders on
No different than where most new policies are headed .... take control from the existing structure and leave the rest as bottom feeders

[farming101]

Wow, over 5 years ago....
https://www.agriville.com/threads/21678-the-future-looks-good-for-seed-companies https://www.agriville.com/threads/21678-the-future-looks-good-for-seed-companies

[shtferbrains]

I'll say it again, this is Big Pharma.

They don't look at this as so many dollars per acre they look at it as how many BILLION dollars can we take out of this industry.

Don't worry about how much the growers or the bureaucrats or the CSTA gets as that's all nickles and dimes.

Flood BoBo's twitter with "Don't let big Pharma screw Canada".

[TOM4CWB]

I am sure Bayer thanks you too.[/QUOTE]

I am sure they are NOT Sawfly.

By the way Sawfly,

The Liberal government can easily give notice under UPOV and easily remove UPOV 91... for all future varieties going forward. This is much more than a Conservative 'ghost',,,

Easily remedied... but the NSO is obviously and actually Liberal policy ... that would be easy to change in a minority Canadian parliament. Quebec has major reservations about the NSO... as do Alberta Seed Growers at the AGM Feb 7th passed many resolutions questioning the wisdom of the NSO Seed Synergy Utopia led by Industry.

This NSO bluff is in no way over or settled... talk to your MP... the Liberals have not even started on legislative changes to the many statutes that would need to be legislatively changed.

[flea beetle]

This goes through, I am done grain farming. Will be moving on to plan B.

[furrowtickler]

There were more than a few seed farms pop up the last few years to take advantage of UPOV ..... not so handy now .
Tom , spin it anyway you want , this was coming the minute it was enacted, no different than signing the Paris Accord, the sheep are about to get slaughtered.
For those who can’t see past their own nose .. should have opened your eyes past the b/s from day one ..... there is always an agenda to this shit , and it will never be in the average Joe’s interest ever .