Carbon Tax Unconstitutional

[shtferbrains]

The legal question put before the courts is whether the carbon tax imposed on Alberta, Saskatchewan and Ontario is constitutional, not whether the carbon tax is good or bad.

But I am not surprised the flat earth society doesn't understand the difference. We will see what the Supreme court says.

Firing and tarring and feathering judges because you don't agree with their decisions is what happens in leading countries like North Korea. Only extremists suggest such obviously backward ideas.

Do the judges in North Korea have to have the same views as the current regime in order to get appointed?

That's whats required here.

[chuckChuck]

If Wikipedia is correct of the Current Supreme Court Justices, 5 were appointed by Harper, 3 by Trudeau, and 1 by Martin.

If they rule that the Carbon tax is constitutional you wont be able to use the Liberal judges argument.

But details like that don't seem to matter to the hyper partisans.

[jazz]

If Wikipedia is correct of the Current Supreme Court Justices, 5 were appointed by Harper, 3 by Trudeau, and 1 by Martin.

If they rule that the Carbon tax is constitutional you wont be able to use the Liberal judges argument.

But details like that don't seem to matter to the hyper partisans.

How much were the emissions reduced chuck? What does the science say?

If that's the slam dunk solution we should be seeing some results by now. Or do we have to wait until the GDP gets slammed. Well that's coming so we should see those emissions plummeting in Q2.

If they can develop a theory of climate change, then why cant they develop a predictive theory to counter it. Just another inconvenient fact in the life of a climate radical.

Canada would be uninhabitable without FF. Full stop. Carbon tax is a tax on our survival.

[Oliver88]

The Supreme Court has 3 Quebec, 3 Ontario, 3 Rest of Canada judges which is a flaw in our system.
The judges representing Quebec might not even want a precedent set that a federal government can impose industry killing laws on provinces.

It should be a unanimous decision against the carbon tax for the Supreme Court but time will tell.

[sumdumguy]

My prediction : The supreme court will rule against the carbon tax, if they believe in the constitution. This ruling will be the biggest upheaval this country has ever seen. The anarchy called Kanada will have to re-evaluate its priorities - the first of which is to give King T the right to run rough-shod over Western Canada. Do you think King T actually believes all the climate change hog-wash? Or are climate change lunatics are just wind in his sails?

[jazz]

My prediction : The supreme court will rule against the carbon tax, if they believe in the constitution. This ruling will be the biggest upheaval this country has ever seen. The anarchy called Kanada will have to re-evaluate its priorities - the first of which is to give King T the right to run rough-shod over Western Canada. Do you think King T actually believes all the climate change hog-wash? Or are climate change lunatics are just wind in his sails?

There are 7 dissenting judges vs 8 for it, its no slam dunk.

Harper tried to create a national securities regulator during his term and it was deemed an intrusion on the provinces and lost. The carbon tax is no different.

Now corrupt liberal judges, that's another story entirely.

https://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/on-the-supreme-court-rejecting-a-national-securities-regulator/ On the Supreme Court rejecting a national securities regulator

[TOM4CWB]

ChuckChuck,

How many reductions in GHG does 'carbon' taxing our grain drying propane and Natural Gas heating fuel provide?

Reducing GHG emissions on our farm is a way of life... that the Carbon tax has had no practical impact on GHG emissions ... other than reducing our taxable income even further. Growing pulse crops and soybeans that fix N as well as P fixing bacteria to convert rock P into available P205 are sustainable GHG mitigation practices. Canada produces 1.6% of Global Carbon emissions... this is not about 'saving the planet'...it simply further hurts the Canadian economy... who will pay more for our grain... because we have a Carbon tax that fails to reduce GHG emissions?

[chuckChuck]

There is a strong case to exempt farmers from most carbon taxes. But doing nothing to reduce carbon emissions is not an option.

When a large number of people think is okay to idle their gas guzzling SUVs and pickup trucks in a Tim Hortons drive through for 5-10 minutes just to get a $2 cup of coffee because they are too lazy to get out of their vehicle or make their own coffee or pack a lunch then you know something is wrong.

[Sheepwheat]

Ok chuck. How much has the carbon tax reduced emissions in Saskatchewan so far? Let’s hear it. Out with it. And if we don’t lower our 1.6 per cent of worldwide emissions in our vast and cold country, what will the result be? Untenable warmth, or?

[jazz]

There is a strong case to exempt farmers from most carbon taxes. But doing nothing to reduce carbon emissions is not an option.

When a large number of people think is okay to idle their gas guzzling SUVs and pickup trucks in a Tim Hortons drive through for 5-10 minutes just to get a $2 cup of coffee because they are too lazy to get out of their vehicle or make their own coffee or pack a lunch then you know something is wrong.

What about panamax ships idling in the bay filled with Chinese plastic and inferior quality junk destined for our land fill.

You are a special kind of hypocrite. Calling out some mom who grabs a coffee vs megatons of disposable globalized crap landing on our shores every day.

[fjlip]

"How many reductions in GHG does 'carbon' taxing our grain drying propane and Natural Gas heating fuel provide?"
It's impossible to prove/calculate. Only "believers" know it is totally accurate to hundreths of a percent C02.
C02 is self measured/ assessed by each country. No one else checks, so let's just say, yay we met the targets, without any TAX. F*ck the globe. We need heat/warmth, COLD or COLDER as the zealots want is DEATH! C02 is NOT POLLUTION azzholes!

[blueversi]

There is a strong case to exempt farmers from most carbon taxes. But doing nothing to reduce carbon emissions is not an option.

When a large number of people think is okay to idle their gas guzzling SUVs and pickup trucks in a Tim Hortons drive through for 5-10 minutes just to get a $2 cup of coffee because they are too lazy to get out of their vehicle or make their own coffee or pack a lunch then you know something is wrong.

Oh? Now it’s most carbon taxes? I thought your buddy Ralph said farmers would pay none? You are a special breed that’s for sure.