Alberta' Climate Future

[jazz]

Individual farmers or even a landlocked western Canada will never be in a position of power to demand the world accept the view that nothing needs to be done to address climate change. Period.

Climate change is just the cover dml, if you did some critical thinking you would easily see that. Dig in a couple levels before you decide to roll over.

And anytime a trojan horse like that comes around, you know there is worse stuff hiding inside.

And because of that, I wholeheartedly deny and disavow it.

[jazz]

I had no idea that a simple fact could hurt your feelings so much.

Yes facts really bum me out.

[ajl]

Suddenly, in the blink of an eye, fake problems like climate change get pushed aside by real problems: The Great DEPRESSION. One year from now nobody is talking nonsense about climate change and will be focused on survival. This could be the big one that ends the era of fakenomics. Bill due? No problem, we will just print some money. Now bills may have to be paid with REAL earnings. That alone puts an end to climate change nonsense for good.

[furrowtickler]

Texas is 20% green energy.

Good for them , they don’t have winter 5 months of the year

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Texas is 20% green energy.

texas is arguable one of the best places on the planet for "green energy". Reliable abundant wind and solar resources, proximate to the end users, cheap abundant natural gas for flexible back up, Peak loads that coincide with peak production ( AC, irrigation for example).

And in spite of all of that, only 20% renewables has caused electricity prices to skyrocket in Texas, during a period where natural gas costs declined precipitously, but those savings were overwhelmed by the additional cost of the renewables.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/11/06/georgetown-how-a-texan-towns-green-energy-dream-turned-into-a-nightmare/ https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/11/06/georgetown-how-a-texan-towns-green-energy-dream-turned-into-a-nightmare/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-26/sometimes-a-greener-grid-means-a-40-000-spike-in-power-prices https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-26/sometimes-a-greener-grid-means-a-40-000-spike-in-power-prices

That's not a typo, 40,000% increase in electricty prices in Texas during a slow wind period.

[tweety]

And that right there should be the starting point for discussions regarding conserving fossil fuels.

Not penguins and polar bears, and impossible sea level rise and temperature projections.

But I am not as pessimistic as you on this front. We have proven the viability, reliability and sustainability of nuclear power. There will be breakthroughs in energy storage sometime in the future , possibly even enough to make unreliable a viable energy source. And the fact that peak fossil fuels has been postponed over. And over again thanks to human ingenuity.

Regarding peak oil, i think you would really enjoy this article

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214629618303207 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214629618303207

[burnt]

I called our nearest liberal Mp yesterday, who is from Winnipeg. I asked how much emissions have dropped in Saskatchewan since the inception of the carbon tax.

Well sir, that is a hard thing to quantify.

Oh really?

This maybe?

[dmlfarmer]

Yes facts really bum me out.

[ATTACH]5645[/ATTACH]

Three points:

1. Your map gives even more reason Canadian farmers can and should be marketing sequestration as a way to reduce impacts of climate change.

2. Just because there is less potential for solar power in Canada does not mean we should ignore climate change, it means we have to look at all alternatives

3. Assuming your denial of climate science also extends to a believe the earth is flat, how do you flat earthers explain the GIS map you posted and reason for lower GIS as you go north?

[Guest]

“Flat earthers”
Fu ck really
You need to tell your cult leader to come up with something new

[AlbertaFarmer5]

3. Assuming your denial of climate science also extends to a believe the earth is flat, how do you flat earthers explain the GIS map you posted and reason for lower GIS as you go north?

Please don't lower yourself to Chucks level. You usually bring some reasonable and mostly factual points to the debate. Don't ruin your credibility and end up on everyone ignore list like Chuck is, by using Chucks name calling and insults, it has not helped his case, and it certainly won't help yours.